More realistic tanks

Since I’m mostly playing Normandy I’ll mostly comment on it’s tanks.

  1. Movement too sensitive.

I feel this is a bigger problem with the M5A1 especially.
Acceleration and, more importantly turning, feels too instant and sensitive. Acceleration is a problem with the other tanks too imo. But turning with the M5A1 especially is way too sensitive.
(A video of IRL Stuart driving:)

  1. Limited vision.

(No, I’m not saying we need 3rd person view, I’m opposed to adding it)
I know tanks have/had limited visibility IRL, and that it is used to nerf tanks in this game too. However I think some improvement could be made.

  • “free look” inside the tank. Replace having to scroll to the next periscope in, e.g. the commander view. Instead you would press a key (e.g. C, like with infantry) to look around. (Proper inside models to the tanks aren’t required)

  • secondary sights and turning periscopes. Many US tanks had two sights for the gunner: a low magnification periscope and the higher magnification scope. These could be added to improve the gunners visibility in the tanks that had such scopes. Also many tanks (of the US) had rotating periscopes for the tank commander, which I think are not implemented in game. These would improve the visibility of the commander in tanks that didn’t have multiple separate periscopes.

  • More hatches for the crew. Ability for at least the driver to open the hatch and get a better view outside. I’d say that the gunner should also have his own hatch, but without the ability to rotate the turret, have a crosshair, etc.

  • Audio information. Have the crew yell about grenades/infantry/tanks/etc. E.g. A tank is spotted by the team and marked. The commander should then yell something simple like: “Enemy tank, right!” Similarly it’d be nice to have the crew yell things they would IRL (for example, the loader yelling “UP!” when the tank’s cannon is loaded.

  1. Turret traverse.

I’ve noticed that the tank’s turrets like to swing further than the cursor. Now, this is actually realistic…for tanks with a electric turret drive. This “slop” should not be there on tanks with hand crank turrets, like the Pz.Kpfw. IV J. Similarly, the “slop” the turret has should be corrected using the hand crank. Therefore the slowness of the turret traverse would be compensated by the lack of “slop”.

An example of this from the Finnish tank ace Reino Lehväslaiho, when examining his new T-34/76:
“The turret moved horizontally with electricity, and when I tested it, I noticed that it had 10 cm of “slop”, meaning that when you took the finger of the mechanism, the turret still moved 10 cm. Then the turret has to be moved a bit by hand.”

  1. Crew specialization

I’m not sure if this is already in the game but anyways. Give a proper reason to use the tank’s driver, by making them better at driving when you are using him, similarly how the commander has more visibility than the gunner, but the gunner is better at actually hitting anything

(Sorry for any grammatical errors, english isn’t my native language)

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Nice suggestions that aren’t about nerfs for a change. I support this

+1

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Tanks are the too much realistic !!.. they upgraded gunner optics and sensitivity so much you get nausea and wanna throw up !

You haven’t read his post… He suggests things that IMPROVES the gunner optics WITHOUT removing the realistic aspect. All his suggestions improve quality of life for tankers.

movement too sensitive , or not enugh realistic !
well some are useless now unless you want some sort of ptsp along with allready blurred vision from concusions and being deaf from arty ,explosives spam !

Tank crew allready deals with specialisation… what i would like to see is more tank upgrades and customization in armor , gun ,ammo etc !!

not just some fancy premium camo paintjob !.. what is probably all we gona get !

Yeah sure, but: completly irrelevant to the current topic posted by the OP.
There’s a lot of threads used only to complain already. Here, the OP posted suggestions to improve the lives of everyone… So again, you didn’t read the OP correctly :confused:

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you explained it just fine

as a somewhat tank driver my self,

+1 on pretty much everything.

( especially on the goddamn tank commander’s copula. it’s been over almost one year about suggesting that… )

and if you don’t mind, i would like to include a few improvements.

which i also would like to suggest a system where the commander when looking through the commander’s copula, with the first mouse button he can order to the gunner to move the turett in that direction ( generally, like the binocle function/systmer over war thunder ).

and lastly, the ability for the commander to use weapons when is out of the hatch. this will eventually be more important when binocles will end up being a thing.

for the rest, as i said, i complealty agree.

but that’s what i think.

cheers.

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Very good points. I’d also throw in free look when up out the commander’s hatch too.

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I bet you didnt upgrade your tank … Movement too sensitive. gets better when fully upgraded and having good crew with perks of brake and shit gear !