HELLO. I like to engineer capture points, especially if they are houses. I use hedgehogs outside of the doors to dampen tank shell fire, and 3 rows of barbed wire behind the door. i barb around windowa also with any spare wire. i also sandbag any remaining windows or anywhere else that will help the defence…
I just had a battle and noticed that my engineering was stopping the enemy taking the point and i pointed this out in chat because there was noone else doing engineering… in the first point we lost, i was the only one who built a rally point. someone then said “build more rallies at next point”… i pointed out that i was the only one who built one. i then engineered the next capture point. a house and it was easy to engineer, but i had no help.
Later in the battle i pointed out that without my engineering we would have lost…the enemy had only 200 soldiers remeining and they had only captured the first point and half of the second point that i engineered. Some eejit replied “well i mean, not really”. so, i said, ok i will remove my engineering and not build anymore…
we lost that second point and the next three in ten minutes and we lost. i want 30 points for an engineer assist. they are time consuming and vital in defending. i want a LOT more [oints for engineering.
I prefer rallies to get increased dramatically like 250 points per spawn or something… make them really profitable so people are encouraged to build them.
you don’t have to prefer. Both can be increased. Engineering is undervalued and needs fixed.
Same premise, more points for building assist and suddenly half the team are engineers. I am sick of engineering on my own, and getting little credit (building assist points) for it. The work of the engineer needs to be valued. More points.
So it’s most likely somewhere in the middle of the objective - effectively sabotaging your own team.
Because for some reason, people like you think that enemies can’t be on the objective on the other side of these doors. Even though objective line very often doesn’t mimic building’s layout.
When defending it is vital to use engineers. Fact. It is the difference between winning and losing and the points should reflect this.
What do you mean in the middle of an objective? When the objective is to defend the point then in the middle of that objective is…wait for it…to defend the point. Since there is no compass points we will assume the defending team (you and me) are south and the enemy is north. That is ALWAYS the way it is. the points may not be exactly linear, but they do move from north to south and south to north. ALWAYS. So, it is simple, even for someone like you…fortify the north and north eaast and north west of the point and leave the south open, so as not to sabotage ones own team.
Answer this PeePee…how does “3 rows of barbed wire” infer that this is in the middle of the objective (which is, remember, to DEFEND)…
LET ME GUESS PEE…“english is not my first language”. Go away then troll. Do not respond to my posts with broken english. You are one of those, always looking for a fight, but cant actually fight…non english speaker, go away from me.
600 quid ive spent on this game in three months since downloading it and the AI is TERRIBLE and the majority of players are selfish like Pee. only looking for kills. not looking to win as part of a team. YUK!
When defending it is vital to use engineers. Fact. It is the difference between winning and losing and the points should reflect this.
What do you mean in the middle of an objective? When the objective is to defend the point then in the middle of that objective is…wait for it…to defend the point. Since there is no compass points we will assume the defending team (you and me) are south and the enemy is north. That is ALWAYS the way it is. the points may not be exactly linear, but they do move from north to south and south to north. ALWAYS. So, it is simple, even for someone like you…fortify the north and north eaast and north west of the point and leave the south open, so as not to sabotage ones own team.
Answer this PeePee…how does “3 rows of barbed wire” infer that this is in the middle of the objective (which is, remember, to DEFEND)…
LET ME GUESS PEEPEE…“english is not my first language”. Go away then troll. Do not respond to my posts with broken english. You are one of those, always looking for a fight, but cant actually fight…non english speaker, go away from me.
600 quid ive spent on this game in three months since downloading it and the AI is TERRIBLE and the majority of players are selfish like PeePee. only looking for kills. not looking to win as part of a team. YUK!
Hello. I don’t see an edit option? i will repost with a poll. However, i tried to open the post as a poll and i was informed that i do not have the authority to create a poll?
you also forgot this part. The part that clearly explains the game mode and objective within the game mode…that is, to defend. Why do you come onto english speaking forums? surely there are forums in your own language…for example, i cant imagine the russians are on the UK/USA forum…so why are you ?
Yes, the scores have increased, but even though these players use the most powerful weapons in the room, they still prefer to fight over the use of tanks and planes rather than correctly and valuably utilize the engineers.
They claimed that they only achieved a meager score when using high-br weapons because of the issue of skill.
Rather than, the reason why they refused to use their brains for thinking.
good spot to attack from: more kills than them. That was the first thing that made me come onto the forum…I was the only one engineering (in the invasion-defend mode), and we lost the first point. the second point was easier to engineer. A house type building with no covert entry points. SO i done my usual hedgehogs outside of doors and windows to dampen shell fire (which not only saves lives, it also protects the barbed wire that i place after i have laid the hedgehogs), and then 2-3 (depending on amount of doors/windows needing fortified) rows of wire. then, usually after a fair number of respwans, i start using sandbags. On windows or anywhere else that benefits the defence…often behind the barb wire as it provides additional cover from gunfire. So, i done all the engineering on my own and we held the second point for about 20 minutes. Here’s the point: I had very few kills, and because the engineer work is overlooked by devs, i also had very few points, so i was a bit annoyed and wrote in chat that if it wasnt for my engineering then we would have lost the point and probably the whole game. By the time i said this, the enemy was down to 200 men so it was an easy win. The enemy had captured the first point, and half of the second (because i was the only one defending) point. I expected no response, but wanted to get it out there that without my seemingly paltry contribution (according to the points) we would have lost as a ten man team. some sally decided to respond though with : “well i mean, not really”. Girly way to say anything. Just say “not really” if thats your point. So i said, "well i mean? You werent talking. I was, so by all understanding you didnt and dont ‘mean’ anything. I will remove my engineering from the point then and wont engineer the next points when they inevitably take them…done this, and within ten minutes we had lost every point. Well, not really? Yes, really, and i proved it. Oh aye, when i said what do you mean not really? He said, “well i have most kills and am second. you are second last”. As i said, my engineering won the battle and i proved it. Thats what made me come on here and request more points for engineering.
When a player builds valuable facilities during the battle, the score they obtain will not be low. Even if you have only a few kills.
see， he had just kill 49 enemy， but he got 9081 score at 2rd place
But more players deliberately and firmly refuse to participate in teamwork, even if they can gain huge benefits personally.
Or they refuse to think about analyzing the battle situation, studying where to build respawn points and how to build them, which would be more profitable for the team and themselves.
They tend to use high-weight weapons, have only a few points, and then claim that the reason is their poor skills. They would deny: they are refusing to think; they are refusing teamwork; they like to oppress and enslave players of the same faction; they like to share the fruits of others’ labor; they refuse to take the responsibility that belongs to them.
I’m not a powerful player. In my community, I might be the worst of the worst. But everyone is striving to become a well-rounded “hexagon” type of Rambo warrior. This way, every player can be aware of their own strengths and weaknesses. When teamwork is needed, it’s easy for everyone to make quick and dynamic strategic and tactical adjustments and responses, so as to team up with compatible teammates and achieve better teamwork results.
But obviously, many players do not think so. They prefer the defeat outcome where each battle takes 20~30 minutes and results with 1000~2000 score points.
Yeah, i do score lots of points for engineer structures, but in that particular battle it didnt stack. it was the fortifications that stopped them entering the point and since i was the only one doing it i had to keep respawning with at least one engineer in the squad to maintain the fortification. I scored low on that occasion, and the low score prompted me to say something because i was angry…"if it wasnt for my fortifications, we would have lost this battle. was an easy win if i just kept spawning as engineer and rebuilding wire and anything else removed by enemy. what i am saying is that If there was an adjudicator watching the battle he/she would agree with me. I scored second least points but contributed most. I proved this when i stopped engineering and we lost all remaining 3 1/2 points in double quick time. A bonus 5k points from this adjudicator in that particular battle.
To the front line speedrunner it is way over the head, and to the casual observer it also may not be obvious, but from the players perspective, i knew if my forts werent in place then the enemy would storm (rush) the point and capture it. They proved it when they took all the points when i stopped engineering. When you are still at the second point and there are no signs of them taking it and only 200 soldiers remaining, it was a bold claim…“without my engineering, we would lose”. proved it though. if that one player didnt say “well, i mean, not really” then i would have just carried on, happy that i was a big part in the victory even if my points didnt reflect it. Barbed wire is worth 30 points a time. I know this from experience. 6 times more than it currently gets. 6 points for every bullet that hits a sandbag. 6 points for every bullet that hits a hedgehog. 30 points for shell or grenade (i see MANY grenades getting stuck on hedgehogs placed outside doors) that strikes/gets stuck hedgehog. 30 points for moving into barbed wire. structures are there to stop bullets etc? yes. then when a bullet hits a sandbag or hog it should generate points. you get nothing. and 30 points for wire assist…currently get 6. nowhere near enough points for engineers. People always refer to rallies when talking about engineers, but that is mostly the speedrunner who wants faster access to the front line. A rally is a one-time build. the fortification of the point is continuous throughtout the battle in defend mode. that is where the engineers work should be measured.
I had a lot less than 49 kills. this was a low level br. I am currently on BR3 as it is fully upgraded. working up to BR5. skipped one and will skip 4. So i am playing br2 to br4 and this was probably br2. the majority of the battle was on their front line, but they occasionally broke through but ran into my forts and were mowed down trying to enter. So i didnt see much shooting action and probably ended up with about 13 kills i think : / 49 suggests the enemy is on top of the point and you will therefore get more kills and more building assist points. this particular battle they were not on top of the team. Both teams were bad. both gung ho. one going north, and the other south. I stopped engineering and the attacking team heading south took all points in under ten minutes because my team was all chargine north. that was only working because when they did break through, my wire kept them out.
I used infantry to engage the opponent’s KV2, T34 and APCs.
I have no idea at all what those players in my team who are using the BR3 equipment are doing.
Among them, there were even some who deliberately only revived at the respawn point of their own team (they played as a team), in order to avoid using the respawn point I had built and to reduce my score increase.
They constantly competed for the use of tanks and aircraft, but they killed very few enemy soldiers, tanks, APCs and aircraft.
They also removed very few of their opponents’ respawn points.
Then they will also criticize me.
And I have never used a single tank or an airplane.
PS: Gaijin devs also insisted on marking the players on my blacklist with a “friend” label in this battle and in the performance record table. This bug has not been fixed for one year.
Which types of players are on my blacklist? Through this battle, you should be able to understand quite easily.
By using engineers and eliminating only a few enemies, it is also very easy to achieve the first place.
And this is the BR3 room. I’m using the equipment from BR1 to BR2.
Only the boxes obtained by the paratroopers will contain the BR3 weapons.
And those players who use BR3 weapons, tanks and aircraft can easily be seen from the scores what they are doing. For instance, a group of 5 planes that they enjoy conducting air strikes without any sense of teamwork.
