After the merge of tech trees, players with different trees need to have everything PREVIOUSLY researched, I recently did the Panzerfaust and idk about you, but i find it really really unfair that i need to invest about 250K RP just to unlock it, I might just stop playing at this point.
Additionally I didnt get told until AFTER i fully researched it.
I’ve actually cursed out everything about the dumb system, I’ve mainly played normandy, so I only have the stuff you can unlock there to the BF109 G6.
So I’m likely not the only one annoyed by this, and it wouldnt be an issue if I HAD to research everything before it.
What Im suggesting is:
Just don’t, please for the love of god, don’t make me get over 200K more RP for a weapon/vehicle i can research prior. (A.K.A. Remove the darn “You need to research the prior weapons” function.)
Doesn’t help either that I’m mostly a casual.
I made an error:
If i didn’t HAVE to research everything before*
If you think that’s bad how do you think the new players are feeling when they come to this game
Agreed, it does take forever, And I’d have it be ALOT lower and at this point it is worse than Warthunder, but the amount of diversity allows the player to actually have fun etc.
That’s good and all but it doesn’t really matter if new players can’t get through the grind and veteran struggling to level up everything and that’s not even covering and how the economy has become a nightmare.
Removing the function would help veterant/Mid game people to actually progress further and not have to go back like 100-200K RP and research like 2 Months just to get it, I’m a casual and typically my playtime a day is capped at 3 hours, this does not appeal to a big part of the adult community that have jobs. (Like 9-5s)
And lowering the RP for mid tiers makes it a bit more appealing to the players, What i would love is a kill counter for how many you need, or something similar like “You need to play – matches with the current average Points you get to unlock this”, It could encourage the player to keep going and say: “Yeah, just one more match, I can do the rest tomorrow!”
Not gonna happen they’re more interested in money instead of letting people actually have fun otherwise the Grind wouldn’t be so miserable.
I have Jumbo unlocked fair and square, but I have to unlock all the tanks that Im not interested in.
This alone pretty much made quit US faction, I don’t want to grind 2 million XP to unlock tanks I don’t even need and the amount of silver I have to pay for each trash is madness.
At least you can look forward to one thing you have choices and options unlike the new players who are stuck with what they get
This was a slight annoyance that even I found a little cumbersome, but it’s a temporary one, so it’s fine.
Karma to those Axis Berlin botfarmers who refused to play against real players in the Moscow, Tunisia, Stalingrad, Normandy campaign. I can’t begin to tell you how many people I’ve seen show their tech trees, full of Berlin gear, but not a single gun from Moscow because of their precious botfarms. This also explains why most people bringing up this complaint happen to be Axis players.
They don’t have this problem the OP is addressing here. The merge didn’t make the grind harder for new players, it did the complete opposite. Not to mention they don’t need to face assault rifle and Tier 5 spam as we did pre-merge.
How is Enlisted “worse” than War Thunder? You’re comparing Enlisted to the game that had 6% on Steam due to poor economy and grind, has 10 factions, repair cost for everything you play as, a naval mode that maybe 6 people play, pay to win vehicles better than their TT counterparts yet ranked the same in the matchmaker, terrible maps that haven’t been fixed in years, much much more I can list.
Veteran players like myself now only need to level up one squad of a single type to have them be effective (Like mortars and flamethrowers), rather than the 6-12 per faction we had prior. This is why some squads are outright unobtainable now.
2 months? My guy, it took me myself a mere day to unlock the M10 GMC and IS-2 1944 both and the average player on a victorious game makes 15-20K exp.
I have to agree the game just seems like the grind is of the roof I mean I researched the armature mod 39 and the gwehr 41 but had to research stuff like the vg 1-5 (not even fully automatic) until after ages I got the gwehr 41 but had like 5 other trees to do. And the grind for the mp 40 wasn’t anu better because I had unlocked the berretta m1 (great weapon btw) and had to do the fnab, mp38 and the berretta 1918.
I mean give a rest to the grinding.
We all have the same complaints my friend. It is absolutely BS. I got to campaign lvl 37 in Normandy as Axis and not I have to go back to the beginning of EVERYTHING to purchase the STG 44. This system is so Jerry rigged and disappointing. I feel your emotional frustration. I work a lot and I have no time to play let alone be with my family, so it’s usually whenever I can play and want to. At the same time, it’s so boring having to play for items I do not wish to have. Especially since I have been playing since before the merge.
I hope they listen to us, this is getting absurd.
Even if I spent $400 on this game just in gold, I wouldn’t get passed more than a few tech tree items. It’s not even pay to play or pay to win etc. it’s redundant.
Its an issue with the grandfathering in of items and its an issue when they add things to the tree. They need to simply make it that you can buy things that you’ve researched, but not allow you to research further unless you have the requirements.
The question lies in should the requirements be everything before it or should it start at the last completed training. I say the last completed so if you have BR IV grandfathered, you should be able to continue from there, but if you were to go back to get some earlier, you may need start further back.
Yes I agree. It would make sense that each “line” begins at where the tier begins.
The only thing paying to play this game will do is just slightly improve your grinding and unless you’re looking for loopholes you should use the XP buffs and loan fighters where it’s extremely more potent if you want to level up quickly
Like I said, I’m a casual and am about 70% of the time not above 50 kills, though I am almost always in the better half of the team
Playing a custom game mode can give XP for the main research tech tree? How?
How do I access lone fighters? It might be simple but I never have used lone fighters, so I’m unsure of what I would be seeing or looking for. Any response would be greatly appreciated my friend!
Go to the event tab and look for custom games and look for lone fighters try and find lobbies which are active because the ones which are active will give you more XP and if you’re trying to level up some specialist units the XP is more condensed there.
That XP affects my research xp? Or only squad xp?