Make the panzerwhefer BR3

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This thing is a glorified truck with a few rockets on top,to put it plainly.it is also at the same BR as its contemporary,the calliope,which is just so much more powerful.in order to justify this BR lowering,we need to look at 2 aspects of these veichles and compare them

armament-starting off,the panzerwhefer has 10 158mm rockets ready at any most,which are slightly larger than the calliopes,and only 10 reserve rockets,so you have to be percise with them to use effectively,which is hard considering the strange ballistics (and the fact you can blow yourself up with it),and a 7.92mm MG42,which may seem great,but its ROF makes it overheat way too fast,and it has a limited traverse.when we look at the calliope,it has 20 114mm rockets ready at once,which are slightly smaller than the panzerwhefer’s,but double that of the panzerwhefer,and has 2 more “reloads” of rockets with 40 reserve avalible instead of 20,a 75mm M3 cannon,which is amoung the best in anti infantry roles and decent at AT,a 7.62mm M1919 which overheats a lot slower and still kills really fast.

armour-the panzerwhefer has abysmally bad armour,8mm on all sides,the thickest armour is the damn tracks,need I say more?even BR1 AT rifles will have a field day against this truck,hell even artillery strikes kill it.the calliope on the other hand,has 50mm on the front,and 38 on the sides,woth turret armour being more than these,it dosnt have as much armour as other veichles avaliable,but it can still survive a shot and trades armour for firepower.

This going to BR3 would make the very noticable power difference between it and the calliope justifiable due to being seperate BRs,and this thing is a premium,so it wont be spammed as much as things like the P38 or P47 by far,and the axis contemporaries for rocket veichles are lacking in the capabilities allied veichles do.

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It was supposed to be BR3 to begin with but skill issue people whined that they would get annihilated by rockets on low BR.
Its not like BR1 guys won’t see rockets, German, USSR and US planes all have planes carrying rockets.

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No. You can keep your rocket truck in High Tier where it belongs. Sucker was annoying enough Pre Merge. Least I can avoid it entirely now if I want to

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None of those planes can sit in their resupply and hammer objective for 5+ minutes straight with no counter other than somehow spotting it (unlikely) and destroying it or taking the very planes you’re complaining about

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Lol, you couldn’t be further from the truth.

Panzerwerfer can spit out it’s 20 rockets literally in few moments.
And it’s not really worthy to go back to resupply point since it’s extremely slow and clunky vehicle.

The premium/event plane with fuel bombs and 4 HVARs is way more toxic.
Having 4 HVARs against BR1, LOL.

Don’t even let even start on P38…

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HVAR’s have been nerfed to the point they’re essentially M8’s with a penetration stat. Which is to say a glorified AP rocket with a small HE effect. Only reason the P-47’s still the best terror of the skies is because you get 5 volleys of the suckers. The drop tank (which is a Wildcat, ain’t it?) only has 2 volleys. Much MUCH less toxic than launching 20+ huge rockets unless you’re plane cycling. Which in all honesty to all of the scum who plane cycle, please forget how to turn on your tv

As for the P-38. Yes, the M8’s are infinitely more useful in Enlisted due to how vulnerable fleshbags are to explosions and fragmentations vs medium and heavy tanks, and it has gotten a lot of flak for being annoying in Pacific. The P-38 itself is a monster of a plane for early war. Sucker can take hits and dish out enough damage to drop a bomber easily. There’s a reason one of our best aces of WWII was in a P-38 most of the time. Still that’s what? 3-6 rockets every 2-4 minutes if the pilot decides to rearm and fly back? And that requires immense map knowledge cause, again, tiny blast radius. I can pull it off on several Normandy maps because I have most enemy spawns and routes to objective memorized, but in the maps I don’t they’re near useless unless it’s an open objective because you can’t blindly fire them “behind objective” and expect a feed of kills

I easily hate the rocket warfer/thrower/barf’er more than any plane rocket spam. Again, other than plane cyclers. Screw them guys. That darn truck’s way more infuriating to die to than that stupid Bf 110 or whatever the frick with those stupid rockets that seem to be a mini nuke half the time

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It was originally BR 2.

Paper thin…low ammo (A panzer IIIN is going to do more damage to a team). was pretty annoyed at this one being moved. When anything and everything thats even slightly Anti-Tank, AT rifles and 20mm Cannons (planes and starter tanks) can wreck this thing at will…got to love “main complainers”

Folgore and Panzwerfer both got shafted hard in the same patch.

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Literally nobody is using HVARs against vehicles. They cna still easily wipe whole point.

Btw. I am tired, I am not going to read this bug wall of text.

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Yeah if you use half if not the whole load

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This guy has no clue about high BR games. Too busy playing BR 3 and bullying new players.

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I think back then the US military in the Pacific relied on him.
Let’s not mention that it is easy to overheat and cannot win the zero type in rotation.
Molotov cocktails are just a joke
According to my witness records, no more than 100 people have died from this thing since last year.

I prefer P38 in low-level environments
6 rockets and 20MM machine gun have higher fault tolerance and stronger anti-tank capabilities

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This is why you need a plane
Smash those damn tanks.

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I agree. In high BR matches, I see it get destroyed by very low skilled pilots or even artillery. I’ve played against it in 2 games as Soviets and I destroyed it with a single panzerfaust 60 from over 80m away. I did the same thing again in the same game but at a further distance. The American Calliope isn’t necessarily OP, but if someone is in a Calliope or in a plane with HVAR rockets, it absolutely am annoyed, because those rockets are spammed non-stop onto our spawn, onto our rallies, onto our objectives and everywhere they can possibly strike. The P38 can be used to spam a position for an entire game if Axis doesn’t have a moderate/advanced skilled pilot in game to stop those players. (Or a skilled AA player)

At least in my experience, which I play Axis more than the other 3.

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Same here,I am always the single player on my team that has to waste time to stop my teammates from being turned into pulp by hundreds of rockets,and whenever i finish,another P38/P47/AP4 just gets into the air and i want to bang my head against a wall

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And the soviets have br 2 rocket tank

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Or just dont let br 3 fight br 1 so new players can avoid it entirely but you wont be dragged to br 5 hell for using it

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You can literally pen it everywhere with br 1 at rifle. If you have problems with it then it is an skill issue

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yea i bought it and now it sit in my inventory still a fun vehicle imo but it armor is way too thin to be reliable beside im pretty sure any rocket can insta kill it so it not really that powerful (even a normal M4 sherman can deal with it easily)

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Which wouldn’t be a problem if BR3 actually didn’t have ±2 BR matching.

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Well, Pz III N is way more toxic HE spammer than panzerwerfer. It is way better armored, it has more ammunition and it’s on BR2.

But people doesn’t care since it is shooting only classic shells and not rockets.

I guess rockets are no no just for the sake of being rockets.

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