Make all Kraut SMG's deal 6.0 damage per shot

The Kraut SMG’s recoil seems a little too high, MP 40’s were known to have very little recoil. But if the recoil is necessary for some reason making all Kraut SMG’s deal 6.0 damage like the MP 35 would balance out the recoil.

Thoughts?

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The thing is, both the PPSH and the MP 40 were very controllable, and easy to use, sure drum mags had less ergonomics, and you had to have a “fitting” magazine for the PPSH to work, but in the end same could be said about the MP40 since they also had magazine problems if not taken care of.

So both guns were basically equal in most regards.
The only true difference was fire rate, and magazine capacity.

Now one could argue that the 7.62×25mm cartridge was less powerful than
the MP 40’s 9x19mm because of bigger mass, but since a smaller projectile usually means higher flight velocity + 25mm of bullet casing vs 19mm of bullet casing tells us probs even more powder in said bullet…
…because of that I wouldn’t really say that the PPSH bullet is less lethal than a MP40 bullet, but maybe a regular 9mm had more stopping power, however from a pure energy viewpoint they are probs equal.

So was the PPSH a better weapon in ww2? maybe a bit, but hitting your enemy first was usually what matters most, even with pistol calibers.

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when I use MP40 (one of my favorite weapons) in enlisted it feels like shooting potatoes to me it looks much weaker than the real counter part,
obviously this cannot be said of the PPSH41 which is a fucking portable machine gun

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SMG is balanced with later stage LMG weapons.
German has weaker SMG at start, while getting very powerful MG42, or even OP FG42.

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fg42 (lmg) for the game it is not a smg nor an lmg but a battle rifle :clap: :clap: :clap:

Keep the damage as-is.

They have DPS that’s in line with the other SMGs with the exception of soviet ones, which are borked.

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It’s like: those two things are broken but they work together well so leave them as they are.
Make SMGs usefull and make MGs behave like MGs, the end.

Mag problems between ppsh / Mp40 are completely from different planet.
Every Ppsh left from factory with 2 drums mags which were extremely rarely interchangeable with other ppsh. Theres no 2 same ppsh’s out there. Ppsh required minimum amount of skilled labour and in that sense its actually marvelous weapon. But obviously it mirrors directly to quality.

Accuracy between these guns were beyond comparison. PPsh had even by soviet standards adequate accuracy.

7.62 has flatter trajectory,better range and penetration. So technically 7.62 is better in all aspects except penetration, problem with 7.62x25 is that its too stable round and due to highspeed you will most of time get overpenetration leaving minimum damage to your target.

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I see damage/balance well, the mp35 due to a longer barrel the bullet gets more speed and more damage.

I think it’s because the us guns fire so slow, they made the damage low. Technically I feel every smg should have around 7 damage up close. I hardly use smg’s anymore, because you need 2-4 shots to knock someone down.

i think what he is saying that that “we get shitter SMG’s but we get better assault rifles and LMGs”

Just add Stg44 in place of the VG 1-5 (that’s a semi auto rifle and should be treated as such).