Needed for exactly what ?
The murrican air supremacy is completely uncontested, a single F9 wont tip the scale to any direction.
Is it better than P47 ? For all I care it can be twice better than P47 and murrica still has complete air supremacy.
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Yeah and the 26e5 won’t swing the armored ballance it’s in my book better that the sp but still not as good as the t2h
Resentment and disrespect abound here
You have the 75/76 Jumbo as a counterpart to the Panther, the Pershing of the Tiger 1, and the Super Pershing of the Tiger 2H, where the latter has features that the Tiger 2H does not.
•Extra armor spaced by 3 armor walls and as the cherry on top it has the Panther mantle as extra armorThe Tiger 2H has no extra protection in either the frontal hull armor or the turret mantlet, unlike the Super Pershing.
•It does NOT have a heavy machine gun like the Super Pershing
An E-75/90 with a 105mm/128mm gun will be the appropriate counterpart To your fantasy
If you and the Allied Faction players can’t deal with the Tiger 2H, it’s
That’s right, the Tiger 2H doesn’t have extra spaced armor for increased survivability like the Super Pershing.
They are by far the faction with the best performance in air combat and the best ground attack support, with great versatility in roles and weaponry. Even the Soviets didn’t have that.
As well as the Allied CAS
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One the super Pershing outside the shield has 100mm at best tissue paper at br5
The t2h has 150 and 180mm armor at best still thicker then the 26e5
The 90mm is a weaker version than the super Pershing meaning each take would have a. Equally difficult time penning each other
Unless the heavy mg can pen anything but the top or rear of the t2h it’s a meaningless creature, or has he which it does not it’s ,a 50 cal I think but is not anti tank so I don’t care
And you right the allies have the best attackers and the axis the best tanks
But if the d9 won’t break us air superiority even at br4 and 5 the 26e5 won’t break superiority of the Germans on armor
How is a 105 128mm gun comparable to a 90mm please put the pipe down
This is compensated for by the spaced armor, which reduces the power of the enemy projectile and prevents it from penetrating.
There is the APCR with 367mm of penetration available on both Pershing tanks to be able to penetrate the Tiger 2H’s armor at the butt of the gun.
The F-9 is suitable and fair to be the counterpart to the P-47 since neither Germany nor Japan has a P-47 equivalent, unlike the Allies who obtained the following
• 76mm Jumbo
• Pershing With APCR
• Super Pershing
• Ofenrohr
• M9 Projectile Upgrade
• P80
• Meteor
Even so, they continue to complain that they cannot compete against German tanks, while Germany has only received this many aircraft since 2021.
•Me 262
That’s all they received to counterattack. But in the end it was no use because the Allies received P-80s and Meteors and further increased their air supremacy.
This is a reason to complain, not what you’re doing.
The same can be said of you with your comparison of a P-47 with a Tiger 2H
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Wow I thought the gunshield only covered most of the front of the turret some of each side and none of the rear or top. Funny that it cover the entire turret and hull I mean that it acts more like a forcefield and not a shield blows my mind. Secondly it’s not just the armor but the anemic reload which makes sense but is poor for balance. Sorry but if you’re hitting the shield that’s a skill issue and not a gamee issue. American tds are thin skinned and open topped in warthunder that’s fine but in enlisted flanking is just about impossible as a tank can cover side to side the entire map unless obstructed by cover. In enlisted armor thus heavy tanks dominate the game. Which is why the us needs better attackers and again I said Germany can have better attackers just worse than the us.
The often wait you mean the us at soldiers can actually pen any br5 axis tank no that can’t be allowed. No not memorized but if the jumbo 76 is at br4 great tank at br5 that would just be sad. Yeah I hate all jets in enlisted along with select fire rifles.
Again most free to play are taking a tank, the Pershing tissue paper armor great gun, super Pershing same thing with gun that has better pen but sad reload. In warthunder where you can go hull down it’s a beast it’s just sad in enlisted.
So you’re not going to complain about the recharge time for this?
The extra armor covers a large part of the Super Pershing’s turret and the entire front of the chassis. Keep trying to discredit your tank, which is sufficient to be the equivalent of the Tiger 2H.
The same can be said of the Allies; if their tanks are not 100% efficient in dealing with German tanks, it’s a problem with the tanks themselves or a lack of skill, which could very well be The 2
Pershing and Super Pershing BR V tanks can do this with standard ammunition or APCR.If the Allies don’t want to take the time to aim, it’s a problem of the Allies’ skill.
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I would rather give the Meteor its bombs back rather than try to equalize the tank advantage Germany has
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I understand the desire to give the US a better BR5 tank, the Super Pershing is absolutely not a match for the KT. I don’t think the T26E5 is the correct way to do it however. It still uses the same short 90mm gun as the regular Pershing so it’s not going to be any better at killing KTs, while on the other hand its extremely strong armour is going to be a nightmare for the KT to deal with on the flip side. This would be some unstoppable force vs immovable object type stuff, not really fun for anyone.
I will admit. Br 5 us tanks do not have a place in the meta rn. But I think the answer to that problem lies outside of the tanks and instead their counter measures and alternatives.
It seems you have slightly difficult time to figure out that these arent comparable.
A single plane, meteor for example can nullify the entire tank superiority while none of the tanks of
GE TT, cant do anything about the airsupremacy.
Infact theres very little to none to do from ground perspective against murrican cas spam.
Even today we still have the same exact BR1 AA gun on BR5.
While murrica just had to get ofenförörörrörö & pershings to compete with cats.
Quite sure its not match for meteor in air combat, probably not even against P47 since its FW and conveniently devs havent exactly had rush to fix the skateboard flying of FW’s.
At most, its good as cas plane something the GE has been lacking for quite sometime.
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If it’s an absolute rival, it even has more survivability than the Tiger 2H.
This is the only cannon that can penetrate the Super Pershing’s extra armor and it’s not in the game
Is allied us uk equal to German armor especially at high br
No
Are axis planes equal to allied especially at high br
No
Should they be as good or better attackers then the allied
No
With the current meta is the 26e5 needed
No
Why
Each faction has strengths and weaknesses a one for one is no always needed
Would it be fair to just add the f9 in isolation
No
Is the f9 superior to the p47
Yes
What should be done instead
Add better German fighter
Fighter can shoot down attackers and fighters protecting tanks and opening up attacks by weaker axis attackers. While allowing the allies to still negate the axis armor advantage.
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Did allies get pershings to minimize the differency ?
yes
Did allies get öfenförörörörrö
yes
Did allies always have a way to deal with enemy tanks even without latest additions ?
yes
And what exactly did GE get to compete with completely uncontested cas of murrica ?
Better AA ?
no
Better cas planes ?
no
Better fighters ?
no
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The Pershings are still not as good as the tiger 2
That is the Pershing is worse than the p
But far closer then the super is to the h
It went from almost impossible to very hard
Wow funny how only the the allies get the ofen
I mean the axis not getting a German weapon
I said the need better attackers that are still worse than the allied
Better fighters full stop even up to as strong as allied fighters
My point is simple they either need to be equal or not
A significant improvement on one side needs an a symmetrical improvement
Keep giving German better tanks but non ridiculous improvement
Almost like the Ferdinand funny that
Yep again it’s funny how the gunshield protects the entire front of the tank and not just the turret it partially covers
If it is as just the very front of the turret
That would feel like a skill issue
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I really have no idea why you believe this considering that it’s disprovable by going into the test drive.
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Apcr
No he meaning you have to hit amm or fuel to get a full crew kill
Tiger2 h
Betting it has heat which in an 88 mm can one hit the crew through the hull
Yes in warthunder go hull down angle right sp is a beast
Enlisted um pray you see the k2h first or it just fried some infantry and you have anti tank shell loaded
Same autocorrect is there no way to turn it off,
There’s the Jumbo = Panther where the Jumbo has more armor than the Panther, the Tiger 1 is inferior in gun and armor to the Pershing 1, and the Super Pershing is on equal footing with the Tiger 2H Where the super Pershing has greater survivability with its extra armor on both the chassis and the turret mantlet
No, and they never will, because they lack the great capacity and versatility of their allied counterparts.
How curious how you demonstrate that you want to have TOTAL supremacy Against the Germans, where do you want it to be
Because it’s super Pershing and that’s enough, being the preferred counterpart.
Each faction has or had that, but the Allied and Soviet cries managed to get them paper weapons for an artificial balance.
It must be added
Incorrect is NOT BETTER It is surpassed in top speed, turning radius, armor, suspended weapon capacity, and has great power and firepower.The Panzerblitz 2 doesn’t have enough TNT to do significant air damage to kill enemy infantry. It will be like firing an Ofenrohr rocket, where it must hit directly or very close to take down enemy infantry.
The BF 109 K-4, the last of the model in production, and the Me 262 have already been added, but they were overshadowed by the Meteor MK III and P-80, so There’s no way they can compete unless they add two aerial supremacy predators, which I simply don’t see them doing.
If the Allies do it, it’s okay, but if Germany does it, it’s wrong? What irony
You were already told that the Super Pershing has advantages that the Tiger 2H does not, where even its HE ammunition and post-penetration damage are superior to those of the Tiger 2H
Pershing is the equivalent of the Tiger 1, not the 2, because the super Pershing was created for that purpose.
So why do the Allies get better tanks than the Germans, but Germany can’t get better planes Having better planes than the allies
Well, I have good news for you: Germany did not have any fighter jets or fighter-bombers that were equal to or better than their counterparts by the end of WW2. And the same applies to the Allies against the German tanks, which are not superior but equal or very close in size.
The Allies still had the best CAS, but they were still given P-80s, Meteors, and two bombers with several .50 caliber machine guns. And a 75mm gun with 500lb bombs
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It is added that it also has better HE ammunition and post-penetration damage superior to the Tiger 2H’s 88
Wow, I didn’t know the 90mm gun couldn’t do that. But the Achilles and Firefly with their 17lb guns can.
So don’t jump straight into the lion’s den because you won’t get out alive.
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