Lower the Panzer IV/70 (A) to BR3

Well thats indeed veeery particular.

its is…but once you know about it…thats the end of every engagment. just another free kill lol. The same reason warthunder vets have 5 or more HE rounds as backup…guaranteed overpressure anything opentopped

Su-76 and zis 30 handle IV/70 A easily, like the marder vs kv 1

The driver window is very weak, many BR2 Tanks can penetrate it

And the drivers window is a the size of most tanks shells or b half the size of the front of the tank
And this td can delete and br2 tank hitting it anyplace with one shell

Most BR3 tanks can Destroy BR2 tanks easily and the window is big

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Thats only true for Superpershing while Pershing has even faster reload, but can still pen any tank in the game anyway.

Thats just not the case, the Superpershing is not penetratable at the areas with the added armour plates which cover most of the tank’s front.
The MG port is impossible to hit at normal combat distances, trust me I tried.
The Tiger II can still destroy the Superpershing by hitting the side of the turret which doesnt have added armour plates, but the thing is that those areas are pretty small, much smaller than the area in which Superpershing can pen Tiger II.
In my experience Superpershing is actually a much better anti-tank tank than Tiger II H, while Pershing is a better infantry support tank than Tiger II (Persh has faster reloady stronger HE and better mobility afterall).

Tiger II H’s only real advantage is being the jack of all trades, rather than standing on the top in all categories.

I think your main problem is actually not playing both sides and thus you don’t understand the strengths and weaknesses of each tank so you don’t know how to play them right either.

The Pershing and Super Pershing have 100 mm of hull armor I know going hull down is easy in warthunder not so so much in enlisted. You meant to say the front of the turret which does not it covers half the front of the turret and a third of the sides my real problem is a refusal to play high br in enlisted I have played both in world of tanks not the same thing but close enough b. The Pershing and Super Pershing are about as equally matched as German planes are to American planes .

Second I want to play war not pixel hunter having a tank that has ten percent of the front pebetratable to 100 percent is not fair can it be penned with he or just ap cause getting a kill without he is not gonna happen often. You need aphe saphe ext a low caliber shell us not likely to get a shell even with ge, if it needs to us ap it’s almost impossible

I wouldnt say normal pershing is comparable with KT. Normal pershing feels like the counterpart for tiger 1 and panther.

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No
T-50:70mm
T-28:67mm
BT-7A:78mm
KV-1,T-34:78mm
T-34 (1941):87mm

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Unless the devs had fiddled with the stats with the vehicles in the test range, the Tiger 2 is absolutely capable of penetrating the Super Pershing’s hull front and turret checks even with the add-on armour. Also I have no idea why the SP would be better against tanks vs the Tiger 2 considering that, while both their guns have similar performance, the Tiger 2’s gun reloads much faster.

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I made a mistake in saying that, I had forgotten early russian 76s were just under the threshold, but that’s only if it can penetrate the flat 80mm plate (and I did only say some BR 2 tanks). If you aim down just a little bit from that 80mm plate at the angled 20mm plate, just about any normal tank can penetrate that, theoretically even the GAZ-MM 72K if you try hard enough can do it too. Here’s a picture from @КвазиМоГ he shared on the RU forum, a T50 that can penetrate the lower plate from a bit of a distance, showing this is a pretty big weakness that BR2 tanks can use to destroy it

there is also ammunition for the Su-76 that could be added to wreck it. And when the ZIS-30 gets added it will smash through it too. (both BR 2)

Its not much different with the majority of BR 2 Axis tanks struggling with KV-1 (and thats still harder for them than penning the Tank destroyer in the OP). Marder gets it done

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Yes, 20mm of 70 degree RNG armor
In warthunder even iron plate can deflect sabot in large angle

But his vertical armor should still be able to be penetrated by the low-level BR2 tanks like the panzer,IV right? It’s really confusing to see this vehicle placed on the tech tree as a tech vehicle or a gold vehicle. He should have been kept as an active vehicle or a rare item in BR3, instead of turning into a common and useless thing that even dogs don’t want.