Let's talk about Normandy

Hello everyone,

I’ve noticed some power balance issues that in some way make this campaign unplayable on certain lvls.
Let’s start from the begining…
At first we have germans outclasing USA a bit, game is hard for the Allies but still winable.
Then the germans have definitly better equipment, and at lvl 15 both sides being equal in terms of equipment and vehicles, this goes till lvl 20.
From this point, i can freely say playing Allies is almost like a cheating.
The only advantages Axis possesing here are MG34 and MG42.
Havoc is much better in my opinion than Ju, I can easly sacrafice 2 less bombs for getting better perfromce, bugged OP structural strength of the frame, not that bad turn possiblities and of course 6x12.7mm.
Also Allies spotting much more frequent Air Dominance on this lvl, let’s be real, from my observations P-47 is probably the best and most versatile plane in the entire game, that the Axis have no equivalent for.
Fw-190 is sluggish pile of shit, without real armmament, that in reality were of course presented.
The same goes for the Jumbo, using this vehicle i can single handedly win the entire game, sometimes depending on the map.
The other small arms still favouring the Allies, you can equip every squad with versatile, fully automatic weapons, being M2 Carabines.
I’ve noticed that with the equal balance of the skill of the players, starting that the most players are above 20lvl it’s impossible for the Axis to win with the conditions mentioned.

What are your opinions on this?

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the only thing i could consider calling OP is CAS but that can be said about all of the highly dedicated CAS on both sides so not really a normandy issue there also plane DMs are still broken =/. Jumbo is unquestionable strong and needs to be replaced, not for game balancing but for historical reasons, by either a sherman 105 or a sherman 76.

you can do the same with the fg42 on the german side with the FG42 dealing as much damage as semiautos and LMGS while the fully starred m2 carbine does less damage than a fully starred m3 grease gun or any fully starred SMG firing .45 acp

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That you have the standard Germany bias. Us has a better tank in the Jumbo other than that Germany has better equipment and some pieces on par.

  • JU88 is the best CAS plane. Getting way more kills with that. Mg is useless on A20 why waste time shooting that over an extra bomb drop.
  • Fw and p51 fighter, fw is better. Same dogfighting stats but fw has better weapons.
  • MG34/42 both way better than bar.
  • Fg42 is waaaaaaay better than M2.
  • Jumbo is better than PZ4.
  • Thompson/Beretta are even enough.
  • Fg42II is way better than Garand sniper.
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???
How am i biased towards anything?
I’m just being fair right now.

  1. No it’s not, i have almost equal experience on both and pref A20 by large margin.

  2. Why are you comparing FW-190 and P-51?

  3. True, as i mentioned

  4. No it’s not, M2 is in my opinion similiar to VG 1-5, thus comparable in game to coming next MP43/STG44.

  5. Much better, it’s ultimate unit of Normandy

  6. Need to test

  7. Yes, this is true but i don’t even bother with semi snipers

he did that because they are fighter 2

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well, exept that fighter is more of a bomber fighter.

i guess make sense if it’s hard to be manouvrable.

now, @49801926 i’m not sure if you actually tried the Fw 190. but… it’s very questionable.

like, you slighlty turn your mouse, the fw performs almost like a 360 roll from the side for no actual reasons.

and whenever you try to engage from encirclement, this last it’s like flying with no flaps.

but, i guess the main point is that nor the FW 190 nor the p51-d are equal.

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Because you say that the US material is better than the German material and it is not. Not even close in some cases.

Good that you preffer that does not make it better. You use it for the bomb drops and the JU88 has 50% more drops. You can drop on 3 areas instead of 2. Makes it way superior.

Because those are the best fighters each faction has to offer. Why would I not?

Sorry what, you really think the M2 is better than the Fg? You are having a laugh right? We had countless posts on how the Fg is overpowered and the M2 is underpowered. I am hardly going to take you serious anymore if you really think this is anywhere near the truth. You ask me why I think you are biased.

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Aye it is really weird in its controls indeed but if you manage to get that under control it is a really good plane. Still a fighter which is not a great slot with low impact either way.

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ah, oki doki.

just to be sure cuz on a base daily you can see people that clearly talks about stuff that they don’t even have clue about it.

my mistake.
shouldn’t have doubted now that i look at your nickname.

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Normandy maps are too bright and pretty to have a war going on. Atmosphere is off.

I don’t have any problems as germans on Normandy (EU). Defending and placing rally points in good spots is the key.

This is not accurate, Axis can win in Normandy.

From your other points, FG-42 is the best rifle in Normandy, MG-42 and MG-34 are the best MGs in game even though the BAR is fine especially for close combat. Ju-188 and A-20 are equal in general, but indeed the P-47 is OP as well and Germany has nothing as equivalent of it. Also Jumbo is OP and not even comparable with the PzIV.

Havent played Normandy since Berlin came out since CAS there is a true cancer. But before that i played Normandy almost exclusive and the WRs were kinda equal. Idk if this has been changed tthese days

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How is the p47 op? Both A20 and JU88 do more dmg as cas.

Boo hoo - some babycakes thinks this is offensive - no doubt th’ pur wee sensitive soul will flag it again… so many princesses around these days, so few peas to put under mattresses! :rofl:

lol - the only advantages…

lol - not me - the Ju-188 is way better - the 6 x .50’s are marginal and not really that much use at all IMO.

Yeah - when you can get to field it against hte P-38G’s taking up the strike slot…

They shoot me down well enough!

Well then you must the world’s greatest player 'cos damned if I can.

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Well both the Ju-188 and A-20 are OP as well. The P-47 is OP as well but the Germans dont have an equivalent of it on top of that

BF110, but after last nerf (2 rockets less) it feels less of an option true.

Even before P-47 was better since more versatile and maneuverable etc imo. But in general CAS planes in Normandy are just way to strong :thinking:

Ye true they are by far the main decider for battles, hope they change that soon.

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When did the P-47 get to be maneuverable??

Certainly got a great warload… but “maneuverable”?? Not vs 109’s f’sure - about the same as the 190 in my limited experience dogfighting them.

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We were comparing it with the Bf-110 which is theory is its equivalent from the the other faction :thinking: