KV-1 (Zis-5) is underrated

Kv-1 already has a bigger weak spot, the turret cheeks

Weight. In most countries, it was the weight that made a tank ‘heavy,’ not its caliber.

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Panther is 45-46 tons, IS-1 is 44

How is 90mm of angleable armour considered a weakspot?

comparing weight will lead to incorrect conclusions.
role and layout should be compared instead.

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It is a weakspot, PZ IV H at BR 3 has 140 mm pen, can lolpen it

The entire turret is a weakspot

Ill show you the armor of KV-1 ZIS5 compared to Jumbo against tiger gun maybe then you can finally comprehend

at the price of a very crammed design, bad airflow, less shells and insufficient escape hatches.

that means jacks**t in Enlisted

has 50mm that can be lol penned by BT-7.
Put KV-1 zis-5 in BR3 and no BR2 tank will be able to put a dent on it.

we were talking about real life design here, but whatever.


Shooting the lower area on jumbo will mostly only kill transmission, not crew

KV-1 ZIS 5 vs Tiger with its amazing gun upgrade

Precisely. Medium tanks must, above all, possess high mobility, which implies transportability. This includes rail transport, bridge capacity, cross-country performance in seasonal mud, and towability. By all these metrics, the Panther matched the heavy tanks of the era. Consequently, under the Soviet classification system, the Panther was categorized as a heavy tank

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Even soviet heavy tanks such as İs-3 weren’t much heavier than Panther

48 Tons, just 3 tons heavier

facepalm-ugh

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yep, Tiger H1 can be penned by BR3 tanks, now lets see how a BR2 would pen KV-1 zis-5…

Relax. According to American classification, the Panther was likewise categorized as a heavy tank.

that all very nice, but neither US nor USSR deployed the Panther tank.
Only mass user of Panther tank was Germany (and Hungary because they received Panthers from Germans) used them in medium role.
I have made it clear as day before that Panther is a medium tank in design, its thin side armour is obvious proof of this.

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PZ IV E

Marder

lol, you cant fool me with that.
Axis can only get the 38B HEAT which has way less pen.
Nice Gaijin nerf.

not a tank, its an SPG.

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then why did you mention 15cm SIG before?

you cherry picker

nice hypocrisy

Well, since we aren’t following Wehrmacht standards, we should look at the majority. If both the USSR and the USA classified it that way (ignoring Great Britain and their peculiar system), then it is more appropriate to label the Panther as a heavy tank