KE7 20 rounds for Japan BR2

After the Northern Expedition, Chiang Kai-shek’s Central Army imported a large number of KE7. Some articles claim the number was 3,025, but this is uncertain.

In addition to purchasing from abroad, in 1933, the Huaxing Machinery Factory in Chongqing also successfully imitated the KE7.
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The picture above is the KE7 produced in Chongqing, with a 20-round magazine.
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It should be a BR2 event weapon

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Well there is 15 :

Событие - китайские коллаборационисты :jp: - Предложения - Enlisted

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Well, that would make even more sense. Because the KE7 with the 20 magazine is definitely debatable for the BR2. But the 15 magazine could easily fit there.

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Yes, it would have been better if the Chinese copy had been introduced to Japan, and the version with a 50-round magazine to Italy (they could have been captured by Ethiopia), but no, now Japan has a version of the machine gun with a 50-round magazine that was not available in Asia. :smiling_face_with_tear:

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Actually, I said in the thread that there were an estimated 15 rounds, but I couldn’t find the exact number. But since these magazines weren’t exactly mass-produced, they could have varied from batch to batch, and I don’t think there were strict standards.

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Didn’t have a SIG KE7 with 50 rounds in Asia? my god, it only gets worse.

I couldn’t find a single source. I consulted both Chinese and Japanese literature. I searched the Japanese online archive for information (interestingly, a Chinese-made Sig Ke 7 in Guangdong was sent to Japan’s First Technical Headquarters for study). On the contrary, Chinese online articles say that versions with 50-round magazines were supplied only to Ethiopia and were chambered for a different cartridge (by the way, the magazine is indeed a bit small for the 7.92x57 cartridge).

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https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/108003446
It looks like the KE7 20 rounds was produced in Chongqing, I think that makes more sense than 15 rounds

So we have a weapon of Japan that we don’t even have sources that the Chinese received, cool

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Well how then this guys got it if it was not in Asia :smiley:

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There are equally worse examples.

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This magazine just fell out, it doesn’t have a bend like a 50 round magazine, there are no other sources besides this dubious photo.

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It will be difficult for any weapon to be more dubious than the Hino Lol

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The Ho Ri tank also comes to mind. Although I’m not an expert on tanks, as far as I know, according to official documentation, the tank should also have a 37mm cannon, a machine gun, and a 20mm anti-aircraft gun. As far as I know, there is an official drawing from that time, but that’s not certain.

Basically there should be something similar to this.
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And this ‘‘fake’’ video:

被遺忘的抗戰利器——瑞士啟拉利輕機槍(SIG Neuhausen KE7)

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Oh yeah, those blurry, colorless photos where the soldier’s magazine is hidden behind an obstacle from a distance, so it’s not even fully visible. That’s not the source; you can’t even see the full magazine.

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that’s the Ho-Ri II, suggested by me already

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SIG KE-7 Light Machine Gun - More Complex Than Most - YouTube

So Ian McCollum then is wrong and they never supplied them to China ? Its hard to believe that the biggest buyer never tried the 50 round magazine.

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So, a better gun than a BR 3 BAR at BR 2. Suggestions never disappoint, right?

That’s why I said it should be an event weapon and because it’s very rare, it doesn’t make sense to compare an event weapon with a TT weapon, For example, now Japan has only won two KE7 50 from the event, this does not mean that we will put a BAR with 40 rounds in the TT to be the counterpart of an Event weapon.