Moving the AP-4C to tier V for balance reasons is somewhat understandable but it hightlights an altogether different problem. To quote @Myrm1don from the “Testing the next update (April 19th)” thread:
Are the Devs aware that unless you have legacy squads:
Germany Can’t bring out the Me 262 and the 109K4/G-10/G-14 in the same deck? (All in same squad only)
USA Can’t bring out the Corsair and the Meteor in the same deck? (both in same squad only)
JAPAN Can’t bring out the Ki-84 ko and J2M3 and Ki-61-II in the same deck (All in the same squad)
USSR CAN bring out the La-7/1-185 (M-82) and the Su-9 (2 different squads)
Its very messy not having all fighters and attackers available to their corresponding Base squads, Not to mention out of balance.
Also, for RP and historical accuracy purposes, tier IV pacific presets no longer have a fighter/attacker/bomber option. Right now, The Beaufighter Mk X and A-20G-25(-M8) belong to No. 144 squadron which was part of the European/African theatre.
It is not reasonable to expect everyone to have legacy squads to compensate for the lack of viable options.
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Dont worry you can always just buy a premium jet. XD Unless you dont even get those as a faction.
Bloating of the fighter 3 squads was an issuee even before jets but now it is even worse…
Japan got hit the hardest as they do not even have legacy squads from pre merge.
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Yeah, I was struggling to fill all my presets with appropriate squads before but it will become even harder now.
I am one of those guys who likes everything in their place, tier I to V, according to the squad history, and in the appropriate battle. For instance, all my presets for Moscow will have Soviet and Axis squads that actually fought in or near that campaign. The same applies for the other battlegrounds. I am sure a lot of players do something similar.
I was lucky to keep some legacy squads to make everything fit but I feel sorry for newer players that don’t have access to them anymore.
I was kinda expecting a Tier 4 Fighter Squad and class since its a new plane type, guess I expected too much.
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That would provide at least some solution to fitting in these new jets before more drastic (and you can argue necessary) measures such as adding a whole new tier VI.
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Soviet bias as always no matter the BR and year.
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Dark-Gaijin never fails to not disappoint. It’s the most minor “Major update” to date.
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I mean at least we can finally hoard boosters for a couple of days.
They are too lazy to even make a new map. You cant expect them to add 4 new squads when the only thing they can do is copy paste stuff from warthunder
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I’m glad someone mentioned this.
I was looking at Japan’s squads… and my are their choices poor…
Pilot 1: limited to the lil A5m4. that’s it. no other plane, just that one for low br players, then they must grind…
Pilot 2: The Zero. while that plane is great, just like Pilot 1, it’s the ONLY choice for the Pilot 2 squad. nothing else.
then you have
Pilot 3: Ki-61-II, J2M3, Ki 84 THEN the new to be soon added jet plane, Kikko…
To recap: pilot 1, one choice. Pilot 2, 1 choice. Pilot 3, 4 plane choices…
- Could it be possible to add more choice for pilot 1 & 2, or at least switch some planes from squads? like give the Zero to pilot 1 (so it have 2 choices) and Ki 61 to Pilot 2 along the J2M3???
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The real issue is they don’t have a high tier attack plane not that you can only choose 1 high tier fighter
This issue is obviously at its worst for Japan, which doesn’t have the luxury of tons of legacy squads like the other factions. I also have issue with the Soviets and most of their tanks being within the same couple squads. They have multiple tanks I’d like to use in BR III that I can’t use because the squads are tied up in BR II and BR V presets.
I think just a small handful of vehicle squads available for purchase per nation that essentially just function as duplicates would go a long way to alleviate this.
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I agree with you completely on adding vehicle squads.
It would take little effort to throw in some new vehicle squads for planes, tanks and maybe even APCs. A little historical research before selecting some impactful squads that served with distinction is dead simple. The player base would absolutely love unlocking new ones.
Right now for instance, you have a European theater British Whirlwind Mk I event plane in a tech tree Pacific marine squadron. There are many more pairings which make no sense at all because of the merge.
Can we please unscramble this mess? It is such low hanging fruit. I am sure DarkFlow could add new squads without diluting their premium squad offers.
it seems to me that Germany’s future fighter capabilities are undervalued
You pulled up 4 legacy squads in your pictures if memory serves me right. This underscores the points made in this thread. I don’t understand what your point is otherwise.
The sentence right above what you quoted (the very first sentence) says:
And its an evaluation of “all nations”
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I did not notice any mention of old detachments in the topic, but the Germans still have the Fw 190 D-12, which can perform the role of a fighter, and also has a much more powerful reset than the 109K4 and is not much worse than 1-185 (M-82) and for some tasks even better
You’re going off topic. This is about the lack of squads in order to deploy multiple planes for all nations. And it is about the existence of squads that don’t correspond to their respective theaters at all
If I were to respond to your latest erroneous claim that ‘Germans have plenty of options’ : The FW-190 D-12 flies like an absolute brick. It slides and refuses to pull out of a dive or turn normally like a BF-109 would
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Jets should have their own squad + new tier pilot, it makes sense. idk why they’re not doing that other than it’d be slightly more work for the devs.
Japan already needs more squads to be balanced against USA and potentially USSR, this just makes their already-limited options even more limited 
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