more than 100mm in front.
You’re talking about the Jumbo, not the Hetzer
No, I’m talking about Hetzer. His armor is angled at 60 degrees.
Even so, the armor is weak, so it’s BR3
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Damn, what’s that supposed to mean? That’s more than the KV-1 and more than the KV-1 can penetrate.
I think it would be good
The only thing that matters is armor effective
The effective armor thickness of the hetzer is xxxmm what br2 us/uk ussr tanks can or can’t pen
Until we have br 0± we have to balance all tanks one br above and below
That means at br2 tanks need some way to pen the front of the hetzer
So yeah just tell me how the grant or lee 37mm can pen the front of the hetzer and I’m sold
He has several weak points in the front like the KV-1, so it’s not a problem
And the armor on the other parts of the tank is so awful that anything can penetrate
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But any German BR3 tank can easily destroy a KV-1. Well, if German players really want a “counterpart,” I’m sure the US ones wouldn’t mind either. Right?
Honestly, when you play at your own BR, whether you’re moving up or down, you need to be adaptable to the situation, especially if you know you’re at a disadvantage (for example, I’m BR II and I’m up against BR III). This also applies to vehicles (knowing their strengths and weaknesses). For example, I’ve played with all the factions up to BR V (except Japan, which is a bit slow in that regard), and when I encounter a troublesome vehicle with a higher BR than mine, I assess what I have to counter it and what my tank has to offer against it (does it have speed? Does it have smoke to help me move?). Or I try to immobilize it and mark it so my team can help me against it (teamwork is also important, although it can be difficult sometimes). The point I’m trying to make is that I shouldn’t assume, regardless of the tank I’m using and its BR or role (medium tank, heavy tank, infantry support, etc.), that I can destroy another tank of my same or higher BR head-on without making any effort.
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Sometimes yes, but often the Soviet bias protects Soviet tanks and causes the projectile ricochet
But Yes
Hetzer wouldn’t be a counterpart because it doesn’t have a turret
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All 75mm/76mm cannons can overpressure with he to the mg and the sides are paper thin and the transmission can be taken out pretty easily.
See this is why people who don’t play war thunder should keep quiet for tank addition discussions
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See this is why people who play war thunder should keep quiet for tank addition discussions
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Let’s use our brains a little, that’s all. Tell me how many Enlisted players use tank destroyers. Okay, let’s say about 2 (because they’re unicorns, they’re rarer than a German player who doesn’t cry on the forum). Tell me a single BR III vehicle that can take out the Hetzer? Quick answer: maybe the Sherman 105mm in BR III. but in BR II there isn’t a single vehicle or AT weapon that can destroy a Hetzer unless it’s from the flank. The Hetzer is like putting the T-34 L-11 or the Sherman II in BR II; nothing will defeat them. There isn’t a single BR III vehicle that can take it out of action (in theory, because in reality there are). BR IV is another story, but think about it a little.
As a BR IV vehicle, it would be excellent, but not as a BR III. I just remembered a guy asking for the JPz IV in BR III because, surprise, surprise, the StuG III is standard BR III with the same gun. Don’t lie and say the StuG is premium; only the one with the short 75mm gun is. I love the nerve of German players who always want to be advantageous in everything.
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Think about it: which tank hunter is approaching the front? Especially from Germany, who are total campers. Their “weak points” are worthless if you’re way back hitting everything and nothing can destroy you. Think about it.
Your argument would make a lot of sense, but in this case, if you’re playing BR II as the United States and they have a Hetzer in a distant defensive position, and your tank cannon won’t penetrate it even from 100 meters away, what do you do? And I’ll answer you quickly: nothing. You die because it will kill you before you even have a chance to plan what to do.
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the ussr and the usa have the same absurd number of campers, the USA is the worst, especially in the Pacific.
It has many weak points and overpressure, so it’s not a problem
A BR4 tank destroyer with 20 mm of armor on the sides and rear against BR4 tanks, Panzersfaust 100, Ofenrohr and with a chance to play against Pershing, Super Pershing, IS-2, IS-2 1944, T-34 100, jets, Tu-2S, P-47, Corsair, B-25J-30 what an excellent idea
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Pretty sure the M10 can pen this thing frontally so rank IV would be overkill.
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it would be like blasting an ant with a nuke to put it against a super pershing.
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