Italy + Minors as seperate tech tree

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Rifles
Rank I
Mannlicher M1893 :romania:
31M Rifle :hungary:
35M Rifle :hungary:
Carcano M41 :it:

Rank II
Carcano Mod.38 :it:
43M Rifle :hungary:
Pavesi M1942 Semi Auto :it:
Armaguerra Mod.39 (6.5mm) :it:

Rank III
Armaguerra Mod.39 (7.35mm) :it:
Frommer Semi Auto :hungary:

Rank IV
Pavesi SVT :it:
Cei-Rigotti (6.5mm) [10 round mag] :it:

Rank V
Cei-Rigotti (7.35mm) [20 round mag] :it:
Frommer Auto :hungary:
Breda PG :it:
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Submachine Guns
Rank I
MP18 :romania:
Beratta M1918 :it:
Beretta M38A :it:

Rank II
FNAB-43 :it:
Kiraly Machine Carbine :hungary:
Beretta M1 :it:

Rank III
Beretta M38/42 :it:
SIG MKMS :hungary:

Rank IV
Danuvia 44M :hungary:
Beretta M38A [40 rounds] :it:
OG-44 :it:

Rank V
Kiraly 39M :hungary:
Kiraly 43M :hungary:

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Tanks
Rank I
Toldi I :hungary:
M13/40 :it:
Toldi II :hungary:
M14/41 :it:
Vรขnฤƒtor R-35 :romania:

Rank II
Toldi IIA :hungary:
M15/42 :it:
Turan I :hungary:
M16/43 :it:
Turan II :hungary:
Pz.III N :romania:

Rank III
Pz. IV G :romania:
P.40 :it:
Turan III :hungary:

Rank IV
44M TAS / Early :hungary:
Tiger I H :hungary:

Rank V
Tiger I E :hungary:
44M TAS / Late :hungary:

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Aircraft
Rank I
CR.32 (2x 50kg) :it:
G.50 (2x 50kg) :it:
Fw-189A-1 (4x 50kg) :hungary:
IAR-81A (2x 50kg) :romania:

Rank II
MC.200 (2x 50kg) :it:
IAR-81C (1x 250kg + 2x 50kg) :romania:
Ba.65 (4x 100kg) :it:
Heja II (1x 250kg) :hungary:

Rank III
MC.202 (2x 160kg) :it:
Me-210Ca-1 (2x 250kg) :hungary:
RE.2001 CN (1x 250kg) :it:
BF-109G-4 (4x 50kg) :romania:

Rank IV
MC.205V (2x 160kg) :it:
Fw-190F-8 (1x 500kg) :hungary:
Z1018 (6x 250kg) :it:
G.55 Serie 0 (2x 160kg) :it:

Rank V
SM.92 (2x 500kg) :it:
RE.2005 (1x 500kg) :it:
G.56 (2x 160kg) :it:

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Itโ€™s missing Celere Sahariano as equivalent of Crusader

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a lot of things that you can add, Italy developed at least 3 AR prewar , Hungary made a battle rifle and had made bunch of semi autos but good job

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Its on the list
M16/43

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It actually has more or less the same armour as T-34

35mm + 15mm (50mm) at 55 degrees (instead of 45mm at 60 degrees) and gets 70mm turret front as well at mantlet area.

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You are probably refering to Tas 44M armed with 75mm 43M cannon and Tas 44M armed with 80mm 29/44M cannon.
Two Tas 44M were made, both were only prototypes, one was only a simple steel/iron construction, not made of actual heat treated tank armour.
The second prototype was genuine, but according to Hungarian sources it was not fully finished.
The Tas 44M was originally planned to be equipped with a 80mm 29/44M cannon which was upgraded 80mm bofors AA gun redesigned to be mounted inside a tank. This gun was not available in time thus it was replaced with a 43M 75mm gun which was also mounted on Turรกn III and Zrรญnyi I, you most likely call this the โ€œearlyโ€ Tas and the โ€œlateโ€ Tas is โ€œarmedโ€ with the 80mm 29/44M cannon however no such tank was ever built.
interestingly, Hungarian sources only mention finishing the hull, however they had to have a turret ready too if they couldnt wait anymore for the 80mm 29/44M so its addition would be acceptable by current HA standards.

Adding the Tas 44M with 43M 75mm gun would be okayish consedering Ho-Ri and T-34-100, however your Tas 44M โ€œlateโ€ is just an alternative reality tank which didnt exist outside of the drawing board and should probably not be added to the game in its current state.

P.S: we also dont have much date on 80mm 29/44M performance so that would be fantasy.

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Chi-To late (production version) had 6 incomplete production tanks made but its in war thunder and will be added at some point in enlisted. If thats allowed, surely a gun difference is acceptable to add both versions

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That is indeed true, but those tanks get a fair amount of hate for it as well.

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You forgot the Scotti Naval Rifle, it was an italian prototype rifle that seems to be based on the Fedorov Avtomat but for 6.5 Carcano instead of 6.5 Arisaka. It would give Italy a fantastic BR5 โ€˜assault rifleโ€™

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Thank you for your post.

Excellent work and I strongly support this.

May I suggest adding Finland as well? Another minor Axis power (unless people believe Finland under Germany would be more appropriate?)

Wish this would happen, especially more TT Hungarian and Romanian stuff.

:slight_smile:

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Good. There is this website if you want to find more tanks and planes for these nations, because there is still a lot of cool stuff that could be added:

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of Scotti we have 3 different versions

the first version posted by you
versione navale 1

the second version with different body, larger magazine and Flash Hider
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and the shortened aerial version

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Iโ€™ve seen the other variants of the Scotti Naval Rifle, although I am not a fan of the massive AA sights, so I prefer to suggest the variant that resembles the fedorov the most

The stockless version could be an interesting pick for BR5 italian paratroopers, or an event weapon for vehicle crew members to use (like the m2a1 carbine)

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being 3 we could do

first version TT
second version premium
third version event