I have added a poll.
In tiers II and III, semi-automatic rifles only have an advantage over tier II bolt-action rifles in close-quarters combat, and they are not good at all at medium or long range.
But even then, it’s hard to say that semi-automatic rifles have an advantage over the machine guns and submachine guns of the same tier in close quarters either.
At the very least, they should function as an all-rounder option within their tier, even if they don’t have an outstanding strength in any single role.
However, in their current state, semi-automatic rifles are in a very awkward spot: they are not really usable as true all-rounders, nor are they strong in close-quarters or long-range combat.
Even a minimal buff that tightens their spread and improves their long-range performance would be enough.
Even then, they still would not match bolt-action rifles in terms of damage, so semi-automatic rifles would not become overpowered.
Most semi-automatic rifles suffer from a bad EDT stat, which increases the time it takes ADS to change from hipfire to non-hipfire levels. Evo4Fun explains it in her video here: https://youtu.be/zkJyc-5x9nQ?si=X3AqfMTaAmopWCsU
I believe that they should buff this stat for the semi-automatics that have this stat at a poor level first, and then adjust from there as needed.
Have you ever actually used a Type-4, Type Hei, or Type Otsu rifle? If you have, you’d know you really can’t call them “fine” rifles—their spread are awful. They’re barely any better than the Type 38, aside from firing a little faster. They even use the same ammunition and have a sealed chamber, so there’s no real reason their spread should be this bad.
If you play the Pacific, you’ll end up choosing bolt-action rifles over semi-autos, because the spread on semi-automatic rifles is so severe that you can’t reliably hit anything. Since there’s a lot of long-range combat, the excessive spread feels even worse, and honestly, they badly need a buff. Japan doesn’t have a bolt-action rifle with stable aim like the Lee-Enfield, so the problem stands out even more.
M1 Carbine could use some love. Either increase it’s ROF from 320 to 380 or increase it’s max hit power from 8.8 to 9.4. However, as I always point out, our suggestions are almost always DOA with the Dev’s once we click the yellow box below, so I expect nothing will be done with Semi Auto’s or any of the suggestions on the forum.
I do think the SVT is the best among the regular semi-autos, but if they decide to adjust the dispersion of semi-autos, it will inevitably have to be included in the list. It’s the same as when they buffed bolt-action damage in the past and couldn’t exclude only the bolt-actions that were already strong.
I believe they should be on a sliding scale to better fit the differences between low tier and high tier. They are pretty much perfect for low tier right now, however once you hit high tier (especially BR4) you are no longer facing bolt actions as the alternative. They are facing very strong SF automatic rifles. There should be an incentive/a reason to use a semi automatic gun in BR5. If semis got a huge buff to damage and accuracy it would give players a reason to take one over a SF, basically replicating the differences between bolties and semis in low tier. It would also help BR 4 players go up against BR5 players.
Give semis bolt action like accuracy, increase their damage to guarantee a one hit down even at longer ranges and then they will be an interesting alternative to SMGs - which right now dominate all BRs except BR5.
I do sometimes think the only semi that performs well in its own BR is the SVT38, and while I also claim it should get a clip reload something tells me buffing the other semis could make more sense.
I am kinda split abous this topic.
I feel like BR3 and BR4 semis are too weak compared BR3 and BR4 SMGs, the jump from bolt actions to semis can be a bit drastic, while the jump from BR4 semis to BR5 select fire rifles is enormous.
BR3 semis all having clip reloads still sounds the most logical to me, while I suspect a massive accuracy buff wouldn’t hurt the balance between bolt actions and semis.
I’ve always felt like a magazine reload 10 round semi-auto being the standard for BR 3, and a 20 round being standard at BR 4 makes the most sense in a world where we don’t decompress by adding a BR 6, but then that obviously leaves the stripper clip reload weapons in an awkward spot. Perhaps if all of the stripper clip reload 10 round rifles had 0.15 EDT, while the magazine reload rifles had 0.30 EDT, that could justify them both sitting at BR 3? The M1 could also get the 0.15, since it only has 8 rounds in it’s en bloc clips.
To elaborate further, the following changes would occur, but it’s more an idea than something I’m trying to push:
SVT-38: EDT nerf from 0.15 to 0.30 (0.40 spread reduction speed total)
SVT-40: Dropped to BR 3, EDT nerf from 0.15 to 0.30 (0.40 spread reduction speed total)
M1 Garand: EDT buff from 0.3 to 0.15 (0.25 spread reduction speed total)
M1941 Johnson Rifle: EDT buff from 0.3 to 0.15 (0.25 spread reduction speed total)
Gewehr 41: EDT buff from 0.3 to 0.15 (0.25 spread reduction speed total)
Type 4: EDT buff from 0.3 to 0.15 (0.25 spread reduction speed total)
Assuming this went through, other stats like damage, dispersion etc could be played around with, but it might be interesting having two types of full caliber semi-auto rifle to pick from at BR 3 depending on playstyle.
It is time to have all semi autos besides some really strong ones like carcano pg move to br3 with some of the worst br5 guns like avs and mkb taking a place in 4th br so it actually becomes sorta competitive against 5
“Let’s make br4 playable by making br3 unplayable”
Worst idea ever. At some point, semi autos are going to go up against full autos. Why should that happen at br3?..currently the most fun to play along with br2.
What does this even mean? Its far more inaccurate than the mg34 when moving around and only has 25 extra rounds in comparison. It’s also 1 premmy squad, people can only have 1 of them and not everyone is buying premmy squads to begin with.
