Isolate BR 5 as its own BR

I have said they are close
Not close enough to justify be only having to br4 to only face br4 and br3
I see you argument And I disagree
It’s like defining listening
Just because I hear what you say does not mean I have to agree
Listening and agreeing are not the same thing
A sherman and a panther are not close enough
A zh29 and a garand are not close enough
A bar and a 75 round german mg are not close enough
Are they far closer than a fg42 and a bar yes but this is not horse shoes and hand grenades
Again you are so focused on the difference between br4 and br5
You ignore everything else

I see you argument and agree with half of it
Br5 should not face br4
But then br4 should not get to face br3
I understand the argument I disagree
Br4 is close but not close enough to br3

If br4 was nerfed ok but not as is

You’re comparing a 20 round, easy to handle LMG to either a 75 round MG34 or a premium MG? That doesn’t sound like a fair comparison

But one is br3 the other br4 according to Mr stick up ass they are equal

If br4 can only face it’s equal or junior how is that fair, even if is by a tiny amount it’s not

Also funny I gave multiple examples and you chose one :joy:

And who decided that? Just you, and even then you haven’t made any sounding argument or examples so far.

Then give me a sounding argument or clear examples to back up your opinions instead of spewing nonsense.

They are close enough and also M1 Garand is not the only semi-auto rifle on BR 3. Are you going to ignore Johnson rifle, SVT-38, VG 1-5n Winchester M1907 etc? In fact, much more evenly matched than the BR 5 SF vs BR 4 semi-auto rifles but ofc you are going to ignore this again in favor of your argument aren’t you?

They are close enough. In fact, BR 3 already have 2 75 rnds LMG and BAR and its variants do perfectly well against them due to BAR and its variants having a very light LMG penalties. Mag size alone does not dictates how the guns are perform. This is why the veteran players often prefers the guns like BAR over other cumbersome LMGs with larger mag sizes.

And you are talking out of your ass just for the sole purpose of shilling for the BR 3.

It is ironic that you claims that me ignores everything else.

Oh okay then. Let’s super nerf all BR 3 stuff that are great like KV-1, Sherman and the guns like 30 cal Thompson etc etc so BR 2 can breath much easily which is fair right? Then you have a deal. :+1:

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The svt38 is just plain broken it’s a br4 rifle in br3
How is reloading the same exact magazine in 2/3 the time balanced
No how about you give an example of a br4 gun that is balanced I have given numerous examples of them not being
Wait you mean how the g41 and johnson are close enough but german players won’t shut up about it
Because the g41 is as balanced to the johnson as the johnson is balanced to the zh29

I have never once said br4 and 5 are balanced
I have simple said neither are br4 and 3 balanced enough to justify letting br4 only face br4 and br3
Either br4 faces everyone it faces now or only br4

the difference is br3 has to fight br4
where in this situation br4 would only have to fight br4 and br3
of course if you only hae to play a weaker br you need to be nerfed

Already gave you a ton.
You just ignored them all and your “numerous examples” are literally and objectively, bullshit.

I think you actually have no idea what you are talking about nor have a proper concept of how the guns are fairing in their repsective BR.

Inb4 this guy is going to ignore all of this again and keep spewing nonsensical things like how M1 Garand can’t even hold a candle to ZH-29 :rofl: As his “numerous examples”.

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ok lets take this one at a time
what does a garand do better than a zh29
rate fo fire nope
magazine nope
damage ow wow zh29 takes two shots to kill
no it does not its a higher number without meaning
accuracy wait they both have amazing accuracy
a zh29 reloads in a fraction of the time and a bigger magazine
so please tell me what, ok one thing a garand can full reload at any time thats it the start and end what a garand does better
yeah us planes are great look back i have said that twice
yeqah a bar is accurate not four times as accurate

so point out any garand superiority and dont use damage

Recoil.

How about we comparing it with other semi-auto rifles then? No, you won’t because you know damn well that they are very much comparable to the BR 4 semi-auto rifles. That’s why you are latching on M1 Garand so much. Stop the BS argument.

You know what, actually i think M1 Garand could be better because US doesn’t fight the body armors so in this context, M1 Garand has more generous one shot capabilities than ZH-29 at range. :joy:

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Ok maybe because the rifle is the standard
Bar vs mg34
12 damage 800rpm 75 round mag vs
12 damage 600rpm 20 magazine
Guess which one is br3 and which br4

its a good thing the bar can kill 4 soldiers with one hit amazing allied technology

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i agree it is sweet music maybe you could do a remix of the gospel

You didn’t understand the meaning of the meme)

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2.0/1.8 reload speed 27/12 vert/hori recoil 75% sprint factor 0.6 ADS speed 0.31 dispersion vs
4.8/3.4 reload speed 12/16 vert/hori recoil 50% sprint factor 0.3 ADS speed 0.40 dispersion

Problem?
For a 1 BR difference that’s actually good enough and acceptable differences.

Good luck trying to run and gun with your supposed so much better 75 rnds LMG. :joy:

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yes and no, i didnt think you were agreeing with me, i was saying if you are not agreeing you are wrong

no at br3 and br4 they are balanced, not so much if the mg34 becomes a br4 br3 only gun
they are balanced exactly for the gameplay they face
so the mg34 75 round is balanced to be played at br 3 4 5 not just for br3 4
so if br4 only faces br4 and br3 then its effectively a br3 gun so then again unballanced

so thos stats would be fine for a br 4 3 mg34
the same way the bar would be balanced for a br 2 3

he finaly understands
the trouble is you want to make all br4 guns into br3
if br4 guns can only face br4 br3 guns there not br4 guns anymore

Why are we even talking to this low‑skill console player? He just likes to beat up beginners in 2 BR on his 3 BR. And he’s really afraid that the evil guys on 4 BR will punish him :smirk:

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how does that make sense, br3 players can fight br 2 3 4
you want br4 players only to fight br4 and br3 are you not the cowards who only want to fight the weak
Why are we even talking to this low‑skill console player?
i play crossplay i am not the one begging for pc players to be able to turn of crossplay cowards

i will agree mouse and keyboard are better than control
but its the tool not the players otherwise even aim assist would not be enough to get the pc master race so but hurt