Instead of nerfing the Select fire rifles buff things around them

Didnt the devs say that SF-spam (with Rifleman Squad) is a thing?

That doesnt mean a gun sucks but the player. We see people drive Tiger IIs into CPs and yet that doesnt make the Tiger II bad.

MGs are so superior that the devs made them easier to use outside bipods/ mounted like twice now and also plan to buff movement penalty across the board.

SFs remained unchallenged for around three years now and barely got nerfed, most of them even got buffs. Even the devs mention it now and they are usually ignorant or oblivious to most things.

only for idiots who cant farm bots in peace on their tanks and ppl who suck ass and want all things easy

most of these complains comes from idiots who deny to adapt on the first place thats the reason

and you know what will happen if SF get nerfed? ooohhh dude you are also ignoring the core of the problem aswell im currently seeing the ARs/SMGS from br 5 and its even easier to notice how weak some are against others + im not even taking in count body armor you know devs have mentioned nerfs for SF but no tweaks to AR and knowing em this will be as fucked as always

Oh yea look at stinger and RD44 they are really competent guns dispite being MGs i wonder why these are used oftently on competitive games to control high density bots camping? MG type 100 is also solid due it most of the times one shot dispite hypotecnically having 50 bullets

This is not true at all. You will get farmed by skilled people with 9 men SF spam so hard if you try to use LMG against them. And i don’t think i’ve ever seen a competitive game actually using LMG on both side. At least the ones between really good players that is. Not only the LMG are so sluggish and lacks one shot potential against people with 35% vitality perk(You’d know how important this is on BR 5 games against actual players with good reflex speed if you ever fought one) but the MG gunners have trash basic perks and stat distribution that it is simply not competitive.

For example, 100% stamina regen perk is mandatory for how good it is but you can’t get it unless you compromise 35% vitality perk on MG gunners. You can get both with MG gunner 3 but MG gunner 3 comes with 100% more health restored with medkit use basic perk which is prob the most useless perk in the entire game. Compare that to rifleman 2’s basic perk which is sprint speed perk and 18/18/18 stat distribution. Now adds SF there. Also your MG squad have 2 less soldiers compared to the rifleman squad as well. I mean… are we really going to pretend like LMG is competitive here?

Competitive games have rules. Limit or don’t allow SF if you think it’s so boring… boom problem solved.

Competitive games having this rule or that rule is not the point here. I’m not complaining about the competitive games. The point here is that how SF is dominant even in the competitive games. Now imagine how things would be in pub games. Exactly what you would think it would be.

Either nerf all SF(except some of the trash ones like Breda i guess)or buff everything else except SF but limits BR 5 to be only able to match against the same BR 5. Honestly, i’m sick and tired of SF meta on BR 5. My wish is that i could use some other stuff on BR 5 without putting a blatant disadvantage on myself which is simply not using SF. On lower BR, assaulter squads are meta yes but it is not overly dominant like 9 men SF meta does.

How do you flank Tiger?
How do you flank Königstiger?
And they have turret to just rotate.

Greyzone isn’t just ferdi problem. It’s problem with any tank. And the Ferdi doesn’t even get to carry much ammo so he is gonna have to move to reload.

Not sure how a rifle does much damage against a tank.
And not sure, I would argue the ez noobs wanna have strong and ez game SF rifles.

Dunno, I would argue its easier to use a SF rifle than adapting to a SF rifle meta without SF rifles.

TG - Oh no, anyway!

Dunno, maybe the StG will soon annihilate tanks too somehow and they can get nerfed as well.

Stinger is a event gun most players don’t even own.
Funny that you mention the RD44 considering it is infamous for having low movement penalty, one of the highest MG movement buff (80%) and also about as much recoil and dispersion as the AS-44. It is basically a assault rifle with 100 rounds, which makes its popular among SU player, especially since the other SU LMGs and GPMGs are not very good, especially compared to the Germans.

When it comes to tanks statement im reffering to those players (cof coof paradivision) who cant survive 2 minutes out of their tanks and by getting killed they complain about the weapon that killed the.

Also if your statement of noobs is true then why only few ppl use the sf and not the majority of the playerbase? This game playerbase is probably the one who lacks the most mininal self awareness tbh…

If its easy then why 80% of ppl dont even touch em?

On any way you would be surprised the amout of ppl who even knowing how sf perform theh refuse to use it you could call it being more creative or having some variation but if they know they will go and eat dirt so why complain on the first place?

You are getting out of the topic…

On any case im reffering to the fact the ars seem to have more dispersion tweaks when it comes to damage and im not even cointing body armor

Yes but when you own one you notice how ridiculous it manages to perform

Yet as i mentioned i wouldnt mind buffs for mgs after all even if sf arr nerfed they will still be shadowed by ars somehow

Well, you turn this easy around and say that SF mains complain 'cause they cant use anything else that is not OP.

So majority of players are noobs now because they want to nerf something you dont wan to?

They are spammed.
If they were not spammed, this discussion wouldn’t exist.

How many people know about the buffs that Soviet body armor and HP bonus actually give?
It is irrelevant if and how many people know about something busted or not and how many use it or not. If its busted, it is busted.

You keep ranting about other players so not sure what your issue here is.

And? It is not still not a TT weapon cant be spammed by like six different classes.

Hopefully the devs don’t do whatever the devs for Marvel Rivals be doing

Dude if sf get nerfed there will be always a new meta and that means eventually more complains in any way

Wouldnt asure thag entirelly as i mentioned theres ppl who refuse to use SF

I dont see SF users if these dont belong from anotber clan or a rare aware player of how the game works

The game has alredy put an advice about it

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Ok these 2 statements have no literal sense and only seems you are ignoring the problem at this point

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I alredy said that if sf get nerfed there wilm be alwahs complains about other weapons and the same fucking issue will happen when it comes to game balance since Ars arent nearly as balanced as SF

At least al SF were capable to one shot (except THA but it had more mag so meh) this is the closest thing we ever had to actual 50/50 fair game balance

Knowking the developers they will manage to screw this shit once again and bring back the balance bs nonsense

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If any mod here sees this bring me a favour to take down this post im alredy tired of talking about game balance so to hell with anything that happens i dont care at this point

And as i said once SF get nerfed another 10 problems about meta and game balance will appear and developers will take another 4 ages to repair their stuff

Im done pointing out the obvious and i just hope developers dont straigth up go and screw game balance if they wanna proceed with this changes

I cant fucking understand how being the closest to 50/50 balance ppl preffer to screw the things up again and beggin once again with this crap

not worth spending more time on this pointless discussion

This is assuming that if SF gets nerfed into the unusable status(I’d say nerf on both it’s dmg and recoil would be it). I think this is unlikely to happen but let’s say that SF gotten a nerf, the new contenders will be most likely AR. Specifically, Fedorov AR and Hyde 1944 and potentially SNR. We could nerf them a bit on recoil part then it would be just fine honestly. But even then they will never be as oppressive as SF spam as it is rn because you can get only 4 of them per squad and the assaulter squads are 7 men squad. Overall balance will be far far better off on BR 5 if SF gets nerfed honestly.

Idc about what happens screw this shit

You posted this in the first place then decided to piss all now because things are not exactly in your way?

How mature of you :man_shrugging:

there are multiple bullshit i have seen on this game that arent made on my way, this probably will be my new adition and here and here i am dispite all

Body armor for example i alredy gave up on that crap

when that happens i just give up and thats it i dont care of what happens next

Ok
Closed as requested

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