This just shows how nothing you know.
The Ferdinand’s sides are thin as heck, very vulnerable and the tank has no turret to turn to defend it’s sides.
Charge headfirst into it’s ridiculous armor plate? Yeah dude you’re gonna die.
Flank them with your tank or with AT with panzerfaust? He’s a free kill.
If all you do is charge headfirst at things you are gonna have the floor wiped with you dude.
push tanks out of the grey and id agree
if we had bigger map id agree
if the grey zone dint kill infantry id agree
if the ferdinand was not a tank and thus can turn in place i would agree
yes in warthunder the ferd is balanced enlisted not so much
How do you flank always in ferdi range
I also couldnt play without some variety but i do run 3x9man with SF on every faction. I really need more than 12 slots 3x9man 2x plane 1engi squad and 1-2 APC is the standard for me so there is little room for variety.
Nothing really that i like on allies so its just vehicles lmao at least its the fastest to do the events with 
Im very sure once SF get nerfed they will either ask for more bs nerfs or straigth up complain about ARs
Isolate BR5 into it’s own stand alone BR level and leave it alone.
Buff every BR 5 guns except SF then make BR 5 only match against the same BR 5 would… possibly works because honestly, BR 3 stuff in general, are very good and can go toe to toe against BR 4(the equipment performance gap between BR 4 and BR 5 is uncomprably wider than any other BR in the game)so this means that even if BR 4 becomes the new “top” BR, it wouldn’t cause as much problem as BR 5 does rn.
Where is the risk part lol
Where risk?
Their only downside is their smaller magazine compared to most machine guns and SMGs such as the PPSh.
A stock sherman is not comparable to a panther a 75 round mg32 nope not comparable to a johnson mg
Whenever you face a user with sf while you are also using sf the one who wins will be the one who reacts faster (and whoever manages to hide their bots better)
The insta killing this weapon have is something i like because it makes you being more aware of where you can get shoot from
The other risk is that is harder to hide 8 bots without noticing half enemies and manage to keep them alive for the majority of time i mean moving with 8 bots along is quite complicated task and even more if theres ppl hunting you, most of the times i get at least 1-2 bots killed
Unlike Ars mgs or early semi autos which you have som chance to get to cover while being shoot
SFs don’t have a downside for the user. What you listed are all effects the person on the other end suffers from not the one who uses the SF.
A proper risk reward weapon would be the Beretta 1918, high rate of fire but bad sights and high recoil. A great close quarter weapon but not good at anything beyond that. A serious downside for using it not just the other guy has one too.
How is this a downside/ risk?
By that logic even BA rifles have that risk because both sides can OHK each other.
This aint tied to SFs but to AI and Rifleman Squad in general.
but these arent nearly as dangerous as SF give a decent player 10 seconds and it will go and kill your bots along you aswell but you can also do the same after all thats what i mean with high risk weapon 1 mistake on what you do and you are cooked most of the times
hypotecnically yes but 9 man are also part of the problem SF woulndt be a insane problem if you could only carry 6 guys with these guns
thats why i mentioned that moving around the map with 8 guys following you is also quite problematic since is harder to uncover your moments
There is nothing wrong with having a weapon that performs well in all situations in the highest tier.
Funny is the fact that at the end of the day SF users are very rare to find lol idk why ppl complain abt the weapon is a miracle i find another SF user while playing enlisted + is BR5 where even the air can kill u : V
be sure that regardless whats made from the SF meta ppl will complain anyways and personally and knowing Gaijin they will manage to screw game balance for another century
Then whats the point of other guns in BR5?
I respect his hustle, but if we actually want this thread to end anytime soon, the only winning move is to stop feeding it. The man is so committed he could single-handedly carry this thread to 100 replies just by arguing with himself. At this rate, the rest of us are basically just spectators watching a one-man debate tournament😅
But that aint a risk or downside.
It literally boils down to the enemy being able to shoot back.
And its still a general issue and not exclusice to SFs.
Am I the only one who doesn’t really care about the fate of SF rifles? It doesn’t matter to me if they are nerfed or buffed…
It’s true I’m a bit of an oddball.
Seems you are closed minded…
to beggin with SF users are rare at least for me is really rare to me to find other sf users that arent ppl from clans so to beggin with SF users are insanelly rare to see
when it comes to other weapons dont exaggerate these still usable of course The meta makes them be quite forgotten but it doesnt means that the AS44 STG44 and bla bla bla are useless im 200% sure that i could bring Ars to a match and still face average SF users without to much complications
if something is actually useless here are the BR5 smgs without doubt
MGs dispite not being the best out of the best these have what SF dont (insanelly big mags specially for one like stingers) you can easily beat sf asloong you dont play to rambo mode
yet im quite aware that these weapons arent to strong and needs some more buffs but that doesnt necesarilly means we need to obliterate the SF