m1 carbine takes sobetimes 5 hits to kill somebody! it have isane bullet spread even in 100-160 meters range that is hard to hit somebody even if its mounted while gehwer41/43 on the axis side have no bullet spread and its bullets go right in to the target even from far distances and do more damage
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Completely different caliber, completely different gun, completely different purpose. G41 and G43 are equivalent to the M1 Garand and SVT40
Good read on the M1 Carbine and the capabilities of the cartridge
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M1 carabine is intermidete cartrige gun more compared to stg or newly added mkb. G41/43 are full carabine sized cartriges way more powerfull. Completely different class of weapons
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the only thing that the carbine series should be buffed in is the upgrades area since they don’t have the faster ROF upgrade and the 20% damage increase that all semi autos have
I don’t see any problem with the carabine the way it is, it was not designed to fight at long range so don’t be surprised u need more bullets to kill. I use it cqb/med and its good gun. For long range I use rifles and snipers exclusively, no point for other weapons aince they were not even designed for that. And who uses m1 carabine to shoot over 100m xD wtf dude
oh i love the carbines maybe a bit too much since i actively go to equip all of my soldiers with carbines , i just don’t think that it shouldn’t have access to same upgrades that all semi autos have
Welp, they need to balance that for sure since they supposedly jave same upgrades as semi-autos… And they are adding more intermidete carabines like mkb. Wonder how it would be in the future with that…
i don’t know, but only time can tell
they aren’t even on the same campaign level right?
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The carbines need a recoil reduction. There’s no world in which the .30 Carbine recoils harder than 8mm in the FG42, or .30-06 in the BAR, or (unupgraded) twice as hard as the STG. The M2 isn’t a comparison with the FG42 because damage and range, and it’s not a comparison with the STG because it’s half as controllable.
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Go an tell that to devs
one way that it could be buffed is just giving it the semi auto upgrades that it currently lacks, 15% faster firing and 20% increase damage, since right now the .45acp will hit harder than .30 carbine when fully upgraded
The Carbine was hated for that reason. Or so said grandpa.
The m1 carbine has 7.3 damage, while the soldier has 10 health. 5 shots at 7.3 = 36.5. I understand that there is distance and hits to arms or legs, but this number of shots per kill from a weapon with this damage usually does not exceed 3.
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Try it yourself, is borderline unusable.
The first time I try it (pre nerf) I switched to the m1 garand after 1 game, if it wasn’t full starred it was incredibly trash.
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The sighting ring is uncomfortable, the recoil is normal. I used it about 30 minutes ago and played it quite well. m1 we have nothing to compare it with, because it is not on the level of g43, the analogue of g43 is Garand.
M2 is a specific weapon, with high assault potential, not limited by ammunition, like fg42. I watched videos of it, fought against it and picked it up myself. The sight is not the best, but that happens a lot in the game, however many players I’ve seen and played against have had no problem taking 1st place on an allied team using the m2 while making a lot of frags.
m2 is an assault weapon, at distances up to 10 meters you can not aim at all.
The recoil has recently been significantly reduced and is about equal to the fg-42. 50 vs. 47 is extremely close.
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M2 is a pray and spary retard gun, is really stupid.
But the m1 is really trash, at least the m2 have good ammunition and magazine and with that rof if your close nothing can really stop you.
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The M1 is an additional rifle in the Allies. No one is forced to use it, because after 2 levels you get the M1 Garand. Garand is equal to g43 and has no problems. M1 is at level 5 and it is not clear why you need it. Just ignore it until Garand and M2
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So there is no need to make ‘useless’ guns better cause no one is forced to use those?
And what level garand was unlokced at tunisia? 23? Is that something like 11 levels later then m1 carbine that is outclassed by armaguearra or what ever that first italuan semiauto is called
the Carbine was hated because of the perception of it by American troops raised in American thinking and trained in American doctrine.
It’s a light, fast shooting, low recoiling, for the time high capaticy, accurate enough to long enough ranges weapon firing a small caliber, light, fast bullet. American training at the time was all about the marksmanship, and for smaller weapons like SMGs, Carbines and Pistols, all about “stopping power.”
The damage on the carbine is fine, as far as game mechanics go, and shouldn’t be changed unless they’re gonna re-work the entire damage model. At the muzzle, .30 Carbine has 3x the kinetic energy of .45acp, but the carbine doesn’t do 3x the damage of the 1911, and it shouldn’t as the model sits.
Both carbines need recoil reduction to bring them closer to the rough equivalent they are for the STG at close and medium range, or the STG needs it’s recoil increased. Having fired loads of different weapons, I don’t mind telling you that 7.92x33mm Kurz is gonna recoil harder than .30 carbine in their appropriate platforms.
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