the current TT semi-auto thats in the br4 is not worthy to be in BR4 but in BR3.
the BR4 rifles needs to be have a 1-shot potential with 15 to 20 rounds mag capacity and no fire selection.
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I mean, if we get 10 round SF rifles on BR4 then the change makes sense and is fair since it would make BR4 much more playable, but otherwise this change only makes current BR3 rifles worthless.
Lets be honest, who would use G41 over G43? or SVT-38 over SVT-40?
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The biggest issue I see with BR4 is that youâre never playing BR4. Youâre either playing BR3 or BR5. So, youâre either somewhat over powering BR3 or youâre being vastly overpowered by BR5. BR4 is a myth. 
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I swear having BR +/- 0 would make BR4 so worth playingâŚ
Currently we mostly see BR4 stuff being lowered over and over again for the simple reason that they cant compete with BR5 stuffâŚ
This is sad cause many weapons from this BR are iconic (for me) WW2 equipment like G43, SVT-40, MG-42, Panther, Firefly (very recently though), Tiger H1, T34-85âŚ
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To be honest, solo player custom matches vs bots are just as competitive then the regular game mode vs players. Games are usually one sided no matter whether you playing with bots or people, so, there is no reason a 0/0 matchmaking system should not be imposed. I think the game is old enough that the longer it exists the more bots are going to be injected into game anyway, so why not just people what they want now why they still have somewhat decent player base. Oops, forgot, itâs Gaijin weâre talking about and common sense isnât in their company handbook. 
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G41 has bayonet and (in my opinion) better sights, so itâs not a complete waste to have them on the same tier.
If I recall, the SVT 40 is actually worse than the SVT 38 stats wise, and they do basically the same thing. Much like the PPD 34 and PPD 40.
No
SVT38 have 14.4 dmg
SVT40 have 15.3 dmg
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I donât think bringing all the BR4 weapons down to BR3 helps as it ignores the problems behind why no one is playing BR4. BR5 matchmaking needs to be separated from BR4 because thatâs always a one sided engagement, far more than in any other uptier. Even BR2 Bolt-Action against the SVT-38 or any other good BR3 Semi auto is far less of just punching down than BR4 against BR5
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Aside from damage, Iâm pretty sure they said soft stats such as visual recoil and dispersion were actually better on the SVT 38.
guns like the G43 and SVT-40 need to be BR3 until we get +/- 0 MM. Because rn, BR4 doesnât exist. And i really ant to play G43 without going against cancer 3x9 spam
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The lower 3 tiers can still compete against each other as long as Germany gets another tank like another Dicker Max in the TT to counter the kv2. Then br4 and br5 can be their own 2 queues. Of course with 4 not fighting br3
lol Shit why not the Stug 42 g AND Dicker max in the TT for br3? After all Russia has both the kv1 and 2 in their br3 line up now.
Why is it that whenever people are talking about BR 4 they never address the real issue of BR 5 being way too overpowered, instead people are trying to just get literal straight upgrades of BR 3 guns down to that exact BR. This will only get us more dead content.
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Br5 is always something I address when it comes to br4âs issue
BR5 needs entirely separated MM to allow BR 4 to be played at all.
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And youâll get obsolete BR 3, genius.
This is totally valid. Here is my rebuttal:
Who would use a G41 over a ZK-383? Or SVT-38 over PPSh-41 Box?
Rifles should have comparable strength to the SMGs of the same BR. All weapons/squads should ideally have the same viability.
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BR3 is a far more even match than BR4vBR5 and doesnât make the weapons in BR3 obsolete. A lot of weapons from BR2 can be used perfectly fine at BR3 and the same is true for BR3 weapons in BR4. The jump between BR3 and BR4 is small enough to not invalidate weapons in BR3 when going up against BR4, unlike the jump between BR4 and BR5 which is too large to play on anything resembling a level.
well, then I would agree here that moving all 10 round semis to BR3 makes sense - since the jump from BR4 rifle to BR5 SFR is insane, while there already are some bad semis in BR2.
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