How to use the rating based matchmaking to increase historical accuracy

[VoyoMayPL]

Each map would have a max and min raiting of equipment that is apropriet to the period it happened.
So for example Moscow maps would have low max raiting so only early gear can get a pass.

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The matchmaker will work in such a way:

1. Find maps that match the equipment. Try to create a match with players who match the equipment raiting.

   If it fails:

2. Try to create a match with players who match the equipment raiting. No matter the maps.

   If it fails:

3. Try to create a match.

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Quite a simple idea build on the teased features.
It will improve historical accuracy while prioritising balance and will still allow for chaos if needed.

[Lisqs]

isn’t it exactly as devs intend it to?

[VoyoMayPL]

As far as I understand, MM will only match the side you play with the map and your weapon raiting with other players’ raiting. But not weapons with maps.

@Keofox

If there are enough players in the queue willing to enter a battle with weapons/machines close in level of development, the battle will be initiated by taking into account the rating of its participants.

[Liah_Kim]

I’m sure, after all of feedback, this is the solution, devs will make.

[Lisqs]

@VoyoMayPL

As far as I understand

and this is the problem, we don’t understand it completely. Guess we’ll see in devlogs.

[mergenthewise]

Jap tanks rollig in moscow with japanaese troops dressed for equatorial climate pants…
Yeah its quite fun in custom matches but not not good for long term

[VoyoMayPL]

Keo said the sides will match maps. But that’s all.

@Keofox

If you queue up as the Soviet Union, you will only see Moscow, Berlin or Stalingrad.

[Blegh2022]

Wrong, only Germans and Soviets will be in Moscow.

Stop being toxic. If you want the game to die, just say it

[Blegh2022]

It’s a good idea, and looks good on paper.

But If people like playing on Moscow, they shouldn’t be forced to use specific weapons to play on Moscow (which, your proposal isn’t forcing, but it is probably not going to happen often with late-war tech)

[VoyoMayPL]

@Blegh2022

But If people like playing on Moscow, they shouldn’t be forced to use specific weapons to play on Moscow

They already are.
This system actually gives them more freedom than the current one.

[Blegh2022]

@VoyoMayPL

They already are.

Correct, which is why the changes the devs are making are good. You can use whatever equipment you want on whatever map you want

[JAREDUP]

The suggestion works, but I feel like this “if nothing lines up just make a random match” will be popping up alot, not just with the suggestion but what keofox stated.

With a still not very large playerbase veterans will have to spill into low “BR” matches because not all vets/high levels are going to be on at once.

I feel like the map requirement has to present at all times or high levels playing during the slow hours is gonna have Tiger IIs vs everything low level.

At least with currently the max campaign gear was the max, but with this update the max is Berlin gear which is absolutely impossible to deal with with a AT rifle etc.

[VoyoMayPL]

MM can’t solve the problem of low playerbase.

Unless we use good old method of stuffing matches with bots in disguise.

[mergenthewise]

I really wonder what will happen to guys only grinded and completed later war campaigns like berlin and normandy. So they now will have to struggle to find match in early wars i guess
So a guy who only completed berlin will never be able to see stalingrad or moscow maps i think

[robihr]

Dear Devs... About Historical Accuracy

As far as i understand, this situation will be possible only if there are too few people on a certain tier of equipment and the matchmaker can’t make a historically correct fight. In other words, a soviet player with a late-war weapon and with late-war tanks is MUCH more likely come to Berlin maps than to Moscow or Stalingrad ones.

[JAREDUP]

Time to teach bots to use vehicles and get smarter then

[JAREDUP]

I wonder how this will work too, especially for anyone who unlocked T-34-85, do they just skip the line and get T-34-85 or do they unlock everything before.

Also at least with Berlin if you joined you had access to the first T-34-85 and could fighter Tiger IIs, with this new update anyone brand new must use a T-60 in Berlin and risk fighting a Tiger II if the MM fails them.

Also that seems really stupid, all new people will be using PZII and T-60 on all maps? So this is essentially becoming Warthunder.

[robihr]

@JAREDUP

Also at least with Berlin if you joined you had access to the first T-34-85 and could fighter Tiger IIs, with this new update anyone brand new must use a T-60 in Berlin and risk fighting a Tiger II if the MM fails them.

whatever you have unlocked will transfer to new progress. so i guess all default unlocks will also transfer.

@JAREDUP

Also that seems really stupid, all new people will be using PZII and T-60 on all maps? So this is essentially becoming Warthunder.

if what movmav_ru wrote is true, then you will only get to use pz2 and t60 mostly on moscow (or if mm fails in stalingrad).

[JAREDUP]

But the MM will be failing, no way we have enough players to fill each lobby perfectly especially in a timely manner.

[VonuhLikesCake]

Honestly think they should just have seperate gear and uniform loadouts for each campaign. You will still queue all campaigns for whatever faction, but depending on the match you will have a different loadout. So the playerbase of these factions will be united, but the equipment will not be a huge weird mess.