How to not make T34 on moscow not completely broken

historical would be axis UP and 90% Battle rifles = not fun

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Ahh i was about to write “Bolt actions are not fun? What are you smoking?” :smiley:

yeah they are fun, if you dont play only with them.

you know its fun and all but having all my squad filled with kar98k and only using them again and again and again is boring

Instead of T-34, let’s put in KV-2 model 1939. Maybe even KV220P. I want to see the German frantically running around when the turret slowly turn to their face.

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How about they dont add both the T-34-76 and the Pz-IIIL.

They should add APC’s and other light transport vehicles with mg’s and not tanks which will cause powercreep. Maybe these can be mobile rally points and ammo supplies.

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Meanwhile we have ahistorical stuff that isn’t helping ballance at all.
“Compromise is a situation when both sides are unsatisfied” :upside_down_face:

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Stukas will deal with the ugly Russian tanks

If people have no issue with the Mkb 42 being in Moscow then why not the T-34 model 1941? T-28E already tested the waters by having APHE and the reality is, not many people have this particular T-28 due to its unlocked on a very high level but if someone has one, its either German tanks go explode or they are going to use a stuka against it.

The frequency of seeing top level tanks in battle depend on the campaign where in the case of Moscow, I see more Panzer IIIs and even IV Es than T-28 with IV E and T-50 more accessible due to the gold card. On other campaigns, I see more Jumbos than Panthers in Normandy. In Berlin, more Panthers than Tigers and I rarely see an IS-1(I prefer to use my gold card T-34-85) and in Tunisia, I rarely see Panzer III(I have this tank there) and Crusader.

Even if Tiger gets added in Normandy and Tunisia, only the most dedicated players have a chance on getting their hands on one due to most probably being put on a very high level meaning a much heavier grind so those won’t be as common as in War Thunder even with Germany being the most popular faction in the community with the most popular campaign being Normandy.

I still rarely see someone else use a PPD-40 or even a PPSh in Moscow besides my own squads despite this is the first ever campaign in this game while I see more FG42s in Normandy but MP43s are not so common.

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There is also the possibility of the panzer 4 F2 which was upgunned specifically to counter the emerging T-34s and KV-1s, would have the same armour as an F1 but actually be able to kill a T-34

I agree - functrionally equivalent as able to easily destroy each other and everything earlier.

Mind you they managed to avoid doing anything sensible with tanks in Tunisia, so we can only hope…

Well they had to play around italy being completely braindead and having terrible armour and went straight to the grant for some dumb reason when the matilda would have been fine

Matilda would be even worse - just as non historical as the A13 and impossible to balance.

Proper progression should have been:

1/ The 2 armoured cars first, followed by;
2/ The Current Italian tank and the Crusader II (with 2 pdr), and then;
3/ Crusader III (6 pdr) and Pz 3E, and finally
4/ Grant and Pz 4F1.

Which would still leave
5/ Sherman and Pz4F2 as an expansion for the future.

It’s not brain science or rocket surgery - the equiavalents in this campaign are simple and obvious and require no stupidity at all!

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Consider the fact, that we are already at what, level 33 on Berlin for example? And we are yet/still, with vehicle squads with only 1 plane, and again, tanker 2 with only 1 tank at level 33, squad types only at level 1 (mortar for example), or squads only at level 2, like assaulters, gunners, eng and radio man for example.
Besides filling content, no, the campaigns won’t end at level 40 or nowhere near.

Either they start to add stuff at early levels. Or, they add more and more as the game goes.

I vote for the second. I want to see every possible thing and a campaign to last longer and longer.

We are yet/still , to have bikes on some campaigns,
Apcs,
Tank destroyers like jagdpanther we saw on practice mode like a year ago.
More vehicles to 1 vehicle squads like tanker 2 or plane squads.
Level 2 and 3 squads.
More weapons that are yet to come again.
Gadgets/anti tank weapons etc.
So yeah, I expect a high high campaign level.

Or, one day a vertical one.

Either way, I would like for them to focus on curent campaigns with more maps and features so we can have more levels without having a pain in our backs…

On topic: pz4 f2 had a long barrel 75mm in Russia campaign? Could be a possible choise if so.

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Pz. IV F2 in Moscow is about as historical as Jumbo in Normandy, but since Jumbo is in Normandy, it would be logical for it to be the match for the T-34. However, the devs doing simething dumb like putting in the Pz IV G or Pz IV F1 again but with HEAT isn’t off the table as well, because lets face it, the devs make strange decisions sometimes.

Yes, but actually, no.

There is so much that you can add, and powercreeps or unbalanced weapon is not the answer.

Plus,

And yet we got very little of it.

How, ironic.

That’s the point.

Put something smarter instead of fill gappers.

Yes.
They.
Are.

Once again, I don’t need a t34 or Pz iii L camping the gray area.

Let alone those things have insane armor and be forced to relay on airplanes that they keep crashing or use smal bombs ( or even avoid marks ).

It’s no fun.

Everyone does actually…

Which that’s why I say that there is the risk of seeing tigers in Moscow.

Because the tiger was available in august 2 1942.

By the dev logic, just because it’s in the same year of production, it might happen in enlisted.

But I’m just repeating my self at this point.

If ya want to break this game and suggest even more powercreeps to compensate your lack of common sense. So be it.

There isnt much hostorical inaccuracies TBH. Only a few violators like MKB, ZH29, Jumbo, T50 somewhat, M2 carbine. Other than that as long as we limit SF rifles the game is mostly historically accurate.

Oh yeah, let’s avoid majority of the golden order weapons that sometimes are better than the main line up counter part.

No matter what, historical inaccuracies are still a thing.

( even the m24 chafe… )

( fgs for everyone… )

Gold orders are not common dough.

I mean, I can make an entire squad out of them though…l

luckily yes in not this game would have become boring really fast

at highrer level, good unlock > filler > filler > good unlock its just how it work

in the future it will be, there is only soo much you can add to a camapign before it becomes unbalanced.

some examples : panther vs m4a2 75mm , pzIII/IV vs t34, ppsh 41 vs mp40 if the game would have remained historically accurate this is what could have happend