You get 1
Ok i found it.
Thanks.
You’re probably right. I guess non of my troops are going home then
Will probably send some snipers, Flametrowers and fighters home then. Their wife’s will appreciate my move
The real question is… how many bonze troop orders can you gather in 1 match with lets say 100 kills.
Guess I’ll need to test later.
I checked out the re rolling thing. It’s not as bad as I thought TBH but 1 thing that hasn’t changed is if they have the wrong base stats like under 16 points in vitality they’re still sub optimal and you cant re roll that.
They’ve barely seen any combat! It’s our assaulters that need a break
We got like 10-15 orders per game befor on our xp rates with premium.
Will double the yesterday rate from now on.
For us won’t be an issue at all. We will stack orders as we did befor.
Yes, bronze won’t be an issue for us who use premium… But what about the rest? Having 10bronze per match (before) was somewhat the exception, many ppl didn’t get that many, and I’m fairly certain NO one else stockpiled as many as 1.2k bronze…
We have to think using values from average players.
And I’m not sure it will be beneficial for the majority… I have to test stuff
Another thing I noticed:
Upgrade of I tier Soldiers is very cheap. Upgrade of II and III tier soldiers is very expensive (Bronze Order wise).
It only costs 18 Bronze Orders to upgrade I tier soldier from level 4 to 5.
It costs 51 BO to uprade II tier soldier from 4 to 5 lvl, and 72 for III tier soldier.
In theory one requires 81, level 1 soldiers (or the equivalent) to earn a single 5 star soldier in the previous system, so in case of the II tier soldier it might be numerically about right. However with bronze order you stood to get a lot of higher level soldiers thanks to RNG. Imaging recieving 81 bronze orders at once, because that is what getting 5 star soldier was equal to.
With the comparable restrictivness of Silver Orders leveling up anything but I tier soldiers might be in the end much more costly. I’m not sure what to make of it at this point. They seem expensive, but perhaps that is only a impression.
The relative affordability of the I tier soldiers is without question very good (especially for new players).
Are there any extra benefits to having II tier and III tier soldiers, other than their one special perk they come with?
wasted all my orders
everyone is level 5 now. berlin tunisia and normandy axis.
1200-1300 orders gone
i m pleased
most soldiers had 30-100 retraining orders so i didnt had a problem getting the perks i wanted
my panther A its finnaly exacly like my panther D squad
i m so proud of it
now, i m gonna gather orders for normandy alies and soviets in berlin. 1000+ orders needed ;D it should be a month or so of gameplay at my pace.
cant understand why some have like 6 or 7 stars tho
:S
btw, finnaly something i can waste my orders, i ill be able to upgrade a level 4 soldier to level 5 every 3-4 games.
not bad!
ps/ side note.
i m probably gonna waste alot of my gun orders and get more stgs in normandy. just incase they change the way we get said weapons as they did in this update for soldiers.
See, that is a real problem…
@Shiivex you are an exeption among the player base, there’s probably nobody that managed to stockpile that many bronze, or obtain that much retraining points…
Most won’t be able to do so.
Retraining to obtain the desired perk will be an absolute chore for the vast majority of the player base… it shouldn’t be.
They either HAVE to reinstate perk retraining points, or make the xp to switch perks less.
The ONLY good thing I see from all of this is that our premium soldiers can also reach 5 stars. That’s about it, the rest is highly detrimental for 97% of the player base…
retraining points are still here…
i changed all the panther A and premium squad perks using it.
on a side note.
engineer on this squad cant be upgraded to level 5:
all other squads in tunisia worked fine.
“Retraining points are no longer issued, but any accumulated will remain and will work.”
Also I think that engineer is unique (I mean, it is basicly a Rider with maxed engineer abilities) so I think they just completely missed it. They will probably fix it… eventually… hopefully…
Also I attempted to retire a couple of 1 star soldiers, to see if I will recieve bronze orders in return. So far I didn’t recieve any, so I assume it doesn’t work yet.
Exploring the new upgrade system I just discovered something… Remember the special russian Assaulter squad in Berlin from the event we had? Each of them costs 54 bronze orders to upgrade to rank 5. No, thank you. I shall hold onto my orders until I find these prices reasonable.
Exactly!
It’s what concerns me rn. We (whales) will manage. But the player base of regular ftp players won’t stick. It’s a very, very bad business move to introduce such system not even a week after a flood of new players from consoles tried the game. How could the devs even expect those to stick around? They didn’t plan ahead. If they did things like…
- being able to “sell” unwanted troops for bronze
- new economy on par with the new system
- revised premium accounts to compensate the now worthless +100 reserve and half training time in academy
… Would ALL been addressed and ready at the same time the new training system got implemented. It isn’t, they rushed it and nobody is glad. My biggest gripe is with the retraining points we can no longer accumulate, forcing us to lose lvls each time we TRY to obtain a better perk: It’s tedious, it’s annoying, not fun. A chore. We cannot experiment with perks anymore because of this, because obtaining the right perk is now too difficult/ time consuming.
In short: they did us a gaijin warthunder concerning the economy.
this is still a limited option, since the silver influx on a f2p player or someone with less time to play will be always “limited”.
this ill be hopefully fixed. donno what ever we will get if, we will get anything besides the xp and extra slot, i m not sure where they can dig to give premium users diferent bonus…
less xp per soldier to rank? i m not interested, its something i get prety fast even on current rank xp requirements.
less bronze cards to rank? not interested , i m getting way more cards per game now… i ill stack 1000 prety soon at this rate…
i m not sure what they can give/change, if, they will give/change anything, to compensate that on premium time users.
on the other hand, the small baby step change, on premium squads was a nice one, so far i dont see no one complaining, lets see how it goes on the long run… baby steps for that squad composition we want so badly…
i rather loose that 2 extra bonus on premium time, and have proper premium squads with proper compositions, i spended way more on squads and i probably will keep buying more, than premium time.
a single year of premium, its worth 1 squad, and i own 28 or 29 premium squads…
not sure either…
So jealous right now
Happy for you though as you put the work in.