Give the m24 m61/apcbc

In my opinion, it’s too strong of a shell for BR 2. If there was an American tank with the 75mm M3/M6, but was much slower and similarly armoured or worse, then I could see the justification. Otherwise, the tank doesn’t really have any “weaknesses”. The penetration on the AP is plenty enough to kill the gunner of any Pz.IV or Chi-Nu you may run into, therefore winning your engagement.

The only valid argument I can think of is the BT-7A (F-32) is BR 2, and has an APHE shell. With that in mind, it really could be considered for an uptier.

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The weakness it has is same armor as m5a1 (only 55mm of equivalent armor anywhere even on slopes), third longest reload of the br, and limited ammo capacity. All this change would do is give the m24 the same arrange that any other tank has when shooting first. It is the longest solid shot reload in the game, so long that you can shoot a tank, kill its gunner, the gunner comes back and shoots you before you can get a second shot off.

Meant to say advantage.

Also the grant Lee m8 Scott and aci would still be stronger than this tank so it wouldn’t shift the America meta at all.

Guarantee anyone saying no to this doesn’t understand how it actually performs in game, or is mainly a german player as they usually have the philosophy of “it’s okay for me, but not for thee”. All other nations get the luxury of not having to use solid shot in low tier and they just want to keep the unfair advantage.

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skill issue.
I own the tank and its performance is already satisfying for BR2.

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Why should the person using the m24, a paid for vehicle, be required to have more “skill” than their opponets? You’re one for “historical accuracy” to begin with, there’s no good reason to be against this.

The tank is viable as is. That’s not the statement being made. It’s unfair that all other nations get special rounds in low tier (on a plethora of tanks) but the allies. With it being a premmium squad, with it being “historically accurate”, and with it being disadvantaged compared to other tanks, it deserves to have the upgraded rounds. “Skill issue” is not a valid reason to gatekeep the u.s. from this.

People like to say, “well it has a long barrel”, which really doesn’t mean anything. I would rather it have a shorter barrel and get heat rounds. It’s the fragmentation/filler that matters.

It’s going to be really funny if I catch you promoting the semovente getting HE rounds but trying to shut this down.

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Its a tank with BR2 armour, BR3 gun and no downsides like open top, no MG ect…
The only downside I can think of is the limited number of shells but its a light tank so you can quickly move back to the rearm point.
I just dont see the issue here.

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nooo

It doesn’t have a br 3 gun. The br 3 gun has a substantially faster reload and apcbc

And I listed the downsides. But I guess you can’t be asked to read an argument before disagreeing

Let’s suppose you’re right. Then what is the problem with it getting m61? If it’s current rounds already works great surely the m61 round doesn’t change much right?

Unfortunately, that’s why this could exist in BR2.
If it happens, they have to be pushed back to BR3.
If transferred to BR3, there is no reason to use chaffee anymore.

Please for the love of god actually read the post before responding.

The Chaffee was moved to br 2 BEFORE the Sherman’s got apcbc. That is not the discriminating detail.

Even with apcbc it is still worse than the Grant Lee Scott aci panzer 4 e panzer 4 f1 pz3m pz3 j1 t28e

So remind me why does a more consistent at round type that every other nation has for all its tanks means this thing needs to be uptiered?

This is addressed to you btw

Yes, I saw it.
But I still think They’ll move to BR3.

Give me an actual reason why that would be a case instead of a gut feeling.

That’s because there’s no downside.
I think it will be possible if there are disadvantages, but the biggest problem is that there are no disadvantages.
The ones listed now are not that big of a downside.

Downsides: third longest reload of the br
Br 1 armor (same as m5a1 and even the angled parts can’t even withstand a chi ha)
Only 20 rounds of he

Again. Read the actual post before commenting

How is br 1 armor and third slowest reload of the br not big downsides? Enlighten me

Yes, I’ve already read it all and my view remains.