I can’t be the only one to abuse the JU and the 110, but they need fixing. you cant have one plane wiping the entire team straight away its just not a fun time. The rocket splash is crazy and the JU bomb drop can kill 40+ and both tanks in one pass! Especially when the US planes aren’t nearly as effective.
Or am I wrong? Been on both sides and it would put me off if it wasn’t a beta.
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which ju?!
A-20 is as effective, if not more, as Ju-188, as it has one advantage right now, MGs, they can shot Ju down, Ju can’t do anything about it.
But to the point, planes are strong, but what do you propose for them? Its easy to write they are OP and stuff, but woudn’t it be better if you would come up with some idea how to make them better?
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Revert the payloads on the old planes and nerf the payloads on the new ones.
Payloads were buffed unnecessarily when Normandy was introduced. They’re overkill now.
Fighters should keep (small) payloads however instead of being useless like they were.
When was that? I remember planes same as they are now from CBT.
Easy, less bombs on the 188 or reduce the splash and reduce splash on 110 rockets.
the A-20 is not the same I can wipe a first spawn with the 188 nearly every time! A20 looking at 20 average kills, and the 110 rockets can kill people inside structures US don’t.
Yep, US rockets are pretty useless, but can kill people inside buildings too if you aim right.
A-20 can do same shit, it cleared our spawn more than once.
Well, someohow those 500lbs bombs can kill people inside bunker 2 floors down in normandy!
Before Normandy became a permanent test.
IL-2s had 4 100s and Ju-87s had a single 250.
You could do serious damage but they weren’t braindead easy like they are now.
hahaha America sUFfers…
the only american CAS worth a damn is the a-20 while german gets 2 109s that have 250 kilo and the noob tubes on the bf110. hell they could get rid of the rockets on the 110 and it can still do fine as gun CAS
That’s why I have 3 planes in the list
and yet you mockingly said “america suffers” which in itself is partly true since the only area america suffers in is CAS, but other than that america is fine as it is
Except that all but 2 of the US guns are from marginally to much worse than the German counterparts, and the same goes to 2 out of 3 tanks, but sure.
Just CAS : )
the only tank worse than their german counterpart is stuart, but even than it’s good infantry support. and most guns are equally balanced with the only 1 that i can really think of as being unbalanced is BARa2 which the germans get mg42
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For some reason Axis planes get their full loadouts while many or even most allied ones get much smaller loads than they could actually carry 
The Pz.III is an M8 with actually usable armour and a functional machinegun that doesn’t die within 15 seconds from spawning (as the only machinegun the M8 has requires someone to be exposed on top of the tank to be used).
Also, the only weapons that the US have that are “better” than the German ones are the PIAT and the Lee Enfield.
Everything else is worse by a margin that goes from small to massive. If the BAR vs MG42 is the only one you think is unbalanced you’ve never actually had a look to the weapons of the counterpart, but I’d be more than happy to provide several infodumps and screenshots if it needs be.
i believe m8’s gun is actually better because both HEAT and HE is usable against tanks and infantry alike
piat is extremely better because sturmpistole is broken, while the garand is better for ranges because of clearer sights, m1 carbine is better than FNAB due to damage and i believe firerate, bren is the same as the bretta mg, m3 grease gun is better than m34(o) damage and recoil wise, m3a1 grease has better damage than mp40, m1 carbine with the grenade thrower is better than the kar98k with grenade thrower, lee is only better because mas-36 is french so automatically terrible, m2 carbine should have more ammo than fg42? and oh i’m level 19 for allies and level 11 for axis 
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You trade a tiny bit of flexibility for the entirety of your survivability and a machinegun. What a trade.
The sturmpistole performs better than it should.
The G43 has more ammo and less recoil than the M1 Garand and sights are nearly subjective. If anything, I like the G43 better.
The FNAB surely has less damage and less ROF than the M1, but also has 1/4th of the recoil at 15/9 vs the M1s 66/16. Both are 2 hit kill at usable ranges and the FNAB has full auto setting and a 40-round mag.
The Breda is indeed similar to the Bren, but with massively better sights for on the move combat.
The M3 and the MP34(o) are about a toss-up for DPS, with the MP34 having an edge in muzzle velocity and the M3 in recoil.
The M3A1 has indeed better damage, but the MP40 wins in DPS, muzzle velocity and damage retention at basically any range, rapidly surpassing the damage of the M3A1.
I’d take a KAR over an M1 Carbine any day of the week. (The KAR, as we’re here, fires faster and reloads faster than the Springfield, too).
M2 Carbine has more ammo than the FG42, 30 vs 20, but the FG42 is a 1hk weapon, the M2 2hk. The FG42 also wins in range, of course, recoil, reload time, all while sporting the same ROF. It’s a better weapon under basically every aspect.
The MG34 has the same damage, much more ammo and much less recoil than the BAR A1. Same with the BAR A2 and the MG42.
The Lanchester and the ZK-383 share the same everything except ROF, where the ZK wins.
The Sten gun, vs the MP 35I, has a tiny bit less vertical recoil for MUCH MORE horizontal recoil, with a smidge more rof (10rpm more) while having less damage (5.5 vs 6.0) and less damage retention at range.
The Germans get the G43 sniper while the US gets another sprinfield. They also get the FG42 II, a fully automatic (or semi auto), 20-round sniper while the US gets the M1 Garand sniper, which has less than half the ammunition, far more recoil and, of course, no full auto.
The end game is so much more heavily tipped in favour of the Germans in firearms already, without counting planes.
I’m lv26 US and 21 GER.
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oh yeah i never said late game wasn’t, but it doesn’t mean america couldn’t can’t compete and plus this topic is about planes so we got heavily sidetracked