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MG34 was developed in 1934 and battle of moscow was in 1941.
Or you mean ballance reasons?
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I want MG13 nerfed, man. I voted as such in the poll. I even mentioned the skewed data to justify a minor nerf suggestion in the preliminary results thread.
Let’s say the DP-27 was in the game and it outperformed the MG13 in a similar way the MG13 outperforms the Madsen, and someone suggested a MG34. I would say no for this exact same reason.
Do not add ANYTHING unless you can balance it.
And sadly, the most controversional gear is often used by Soviets.
PTRS
DP-27
T-34
KV-1
etc.
If you want, I can write up a thread for how I personally like to see DP-27 etc be implemented into the game, as for this one it can totally work if it is balanced properly (see previous comment)
Yes
MG-34 is heavy and has high recoil so it won’t kill the game
Madsen should be removed and replaced with NERFED DP-27 so players will actually WANT to play soviets
Actually gun itself was lighter than MG13.
Nope
And MG-13 is more controllable
MG13 - 13,3kg
MG34 - 11,5-13kg
Wikipedia
And about control we may argue. Because of box magazine on the side MG13 was qiute unpleasant to shoot (change of center of mass when you shoot).
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not really, VoyoMayPL is right. MG13 was heavy, MG34 was pretty light (Forgotten Weapons mentions this as well and I consider him a primary source as he has first hand experience with so many weapons)
Also not really, as the recoil operated mechanism smoothens the recoil decently well. It probably has less recoil than most MGs we currently have.
The only downside it would have is long reload due to it being belt fed. But it wouldn’t be that much longer compared to the DP-27 to really outweigh the advantages.
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Dude, MG-34 is maybe lighter when having empty mag
MG-13 has a much smaller and lighter mag
You still want DP out of the game instead of just nerfing it
German MG’s were better than DP so why do you want it out
Both weapons would carry roughly the same ammount of bullets, in which case the belts would be lighter than the box magazines, although they might be slightly heavier if the MG34 has the drums to encase the belt.
But even if it was slightly heavier due to that, the total weight would remain the same.
Sir, please.
DP-27 can be fine as long as it has downsides that counteract the large magazine compared to the Madsen. It did not have those downsides during Alpha.
Keeping soviets with weapons they hardly even used in ww2 is not good
Just NERFING DP is better
Again, just NERFING
And I agree with that, except I am stating that it needs to be nerfed BEFORE getting implemented.
So why are we arguing.
Because you were constantly giving reasons why not to add DP
so
I thought you want it out of the game
Ok then let me simplify it:
And if we give the same restrictions to MG-34 we don’t need to remove anything
It seems that empty MG13 is lighter than empty MG34 but loaded MG13 is heavier than loaded MG34.
I support idea of adding DP-27, in addition to Madsen. And make Madsen lighter to carry, and run with, etc. or something.
I like my Madsen, but DP would be op maybe. Upgraded Madsen is very powerful, and it is easy to upgrade. I’ve tried GE MGs and none of them are good for frontal assault role, so they seem limited.
What I want to see is (1) move the Madsen unlock to lower level - maybe level 5-7, so players get fun early. And then (2) at lvl 11-14 unlock DP-27.
Early Soviet is a grinder, and needs a spicer.
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Soviets get more spice at low level than Germany, though.
Soviets get meh SMG, then shotgun
Germans get bad SMG, then meh SMG
(in comparison to other SMGs)
Bad smg you mean mp-28 and meh mp-38? Can partly agree about mp-28 (its easy to upgrade it), but mp-38 is as op as mp-40 or mp-41, because it can easily wipe out squads in rooms and is pretty accurate on medium distance thanks to its low rate of fire.
MP-38 has much lower rate of fire than the MP-40 or PPD.
As such, while it is an easy gun to use, its DPS is limited, especially compared to the PPD, which, while less controllable, has much higher DPS. I think that the PPD and MP-38 are roughly equals as a result. MP-40 raises firerate while keeping controllability, while drum PPD adds ammo capacity. Both are objectively stronger weapons, so that’s why the box PPD and MP-38 are meh