Further balance

ah I got what you mean will i was just farming kills I wasnt really immersed into the objective my team mates would capture and I eventaully come but it was easy to dominate the game and have the upper hand and i said easy not quick

thats because german nation is superior, not because you’re good, right? wehraboo! :smiley:

apparently :smiley:

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Field tests had shown that 7,62 tokarev is stronger than 9mm so comparing them by calibre is not really the best idea

PPK is like MP28 but deals worse damage when upgraded

(and you have to pay to use it)

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This is subjective and practically unmeasurable.
One has higher penetration, other has more damage due the bullet being bigger
It depends where you shoot, if you hit a “weak spot” without bone, 9mm will do more, while 7.62 is better at going through bones.

No, it still has the much larger magazine, and is pretty balanced when compared to the average MPs

Name any real Soviet main that doesnt own the premium soldiers rn.

Me

Then you are an exception to the rule
Most alpha testers that are still around did buy at least one of the two packs, and CBT testers obviously have to buy one to access the game.

That still doesnt cover up the fact that PPK is worse than MP’s

It just is
and a little bit of testing can prove that

it loses out on 0.2 damage, which in this case isnt enough to change anything (both MPs and PPK are 3-hit on torso). This is 0.3 damage on an upgraded gun I suppose but still doesnt change anything.

It has slightly slower rate of fire, but almost double the magazine size, while having the same reload time.

You tell me

all those advantages MP gets and you stick with the only little advantage PPK has

I tell you

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It’s back to the 9mm vs fudd-5 argument. Force= mass*acceleration and less than 2mm isn’t enough of a diameter difference to seriously consider it to be a factor on its own.

What advantages would the MP have then?
As the PPK is still very similar in regards to recoil and firerate when comparing to the MP28.
At least you guys still get the medium range SMG option. Germans only get 10 flavors of vanilla with all the MPs.

2mm is a massive difference against a human body, actually.
And then there is the fact that one is a downscaled rifle bullet, aka sharp tip, while the other one is a true pistol round, with a blunt tip, does. The blunt tip is much better at expanding to deal more damage, and on top of that it’s 2mm extra thiccness further enhances that.

The geneva convention requires the use of FMJs, because they don’t expand. So that’s not a factor there.

Every bullet expands on impact. Throw anything soft onto the ground and see it turn into a pancake.

That happens with everything impacting something else. FMJ merely makes it expand less than HP. But a blunt tip expands much better than a sharp tip.

7.62 is also longer

As I have said before, damage by calibre is very hard to measure especially by three shitposters so it is for the best if we avoid talking about them

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Then talk about this

Which are jack of all trades SMG’s

If Germans get their close range gun, it will probably be Finnish Suomi which is better than PPD-38
And we dont want more overperforming guns for GER

Edit-
Or they can get captured PPSh because it was the most popolar SMG amongst German soldiers

BUT

Giving same weapons to different sides is going to make the game boring as sides won’t really differ

I agree, but still you cant deny that Soviets have more choices for weapons and playstyles.

In no way do the differences in SMGs translate into difference of play style.
It’s negligible and they ultimately fit the same niche.

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I can’t spray and pray with an MP as I do not have the magazine capacity for it.
PPDs? I’ll keep spraying to keep people’s heads down, or fake a reload by pausing after ~25 rounds to duke people into thinking I am using a box magazine PPD to lure them out, thinking I am reloading, while I wait with my finger on the trigger.

But sure, those are totally the same as the general MP burst fire tactics/playstyles.