In other words, if the IL-2 payed attention and knew how to aim, you’d be long dead. Cause one burst ond the 123 has no wings.
i would say the IL2 is the best plane for russians(probably even the enitrety of moscow) because of its autocannons+ very capable ground attacking payload
i have palyed with its german equivalent(bf110) for some time and its bombs are kinda weak
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Indeed .
However there’s little he can do if the 123 gets behind hime - the Il-2 has to have surprise on his side because he can’t force a 123 to stay in front.
The 123 is a nice little plane - I like flying it, and if I keep my eyes open and wits about me it can usually last a while in the game or until a Yak arrives - can’t avoid them if well flown.
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i have palyed with its german equivalent(bf110) for some time and its bombs are kinda weak
I don’t know what you’ve been doing, but I wouldn’t consider 2x250kg weak.
However there’s little he can do if the 123 gets behind hime - the Il-2 has to have surprise on his side because he can’t force a 123 to stay in front.
I mean, he can just fly straight towards the resupply, as the 7.92s barely scratch off it’s paint. And the thing is, the IL-2 is so slow it can easily force the 123 to overshoot and get guns on target that way.
The 123 is a nice little plane - I like flying it, and if I keep my eyes open and wits about me it can usually last a while in the game or until a Yak arrives - can’t avoid them if well flown.
I personally never liked it. Bf-109s a lot better and bf-110 is amazing, so I prefer to fly those.
You can easily shoot down the IL-2 on the He 123 if you use his ammo wisely.
You can easily shoot down the IL-2 on the He 123 if you use his ammo wisely.
I mean, think about the IL-2s you’ve shot down. How many got destroyed in the air? Apart from that one lucky pilot snipe you got, as I wrote on that thread before, were pilot failiure on the IL-2s part. And you had 0 rounds left.
I can’t even count how many times a german fighter threw his entire mag of 7.92 in my IL-2 and all that happened was my airframe turning yellow.
Also, it’s the hs123, not he123.
Pretty big difference, as hs stands for Henschel, while he stands for Heinkel. Completely different companies.
They were shot down - that’s the main thing.
In 3 cases, I inflicted damage to them that led to their fall, in 4 cases I killed the pilot (since I had already learned to play on an plane a little).
I always meant Henschel by He.I don’t care how it’s shortened there.
I’ve already forgotten about Henkel.
They were shot down - that’s the main thing.
I also got shot down by a kar98k sniper once. Doesn’t mean it’s an effective weapon agaist aircraft.
In 3 cases, I inflicted damage to them that led to their fall
How do you know? It doesn’t say what damage you did. And it’s possible the IL-2 pilot either wanted to respawn and decided to give you the kill or simply ran out of energy and fell, possibly even overestimated his plane by trying an impossible manuever and crashed.
in 4 cases I killed the pilot (since I had already learned to play on an plane a little).
What 4 cases? You don’t show 4 of these, and if you mean in total, then that’s very low.
I always meant Henschel by He.I don’t care how it’s shortened there.
Well you should. Saying he-123 is like reffering to a Pe-3 as an Il-3. It just makes you (no offense) sound like an idiot.
I’ve already forgotten about Henkel
It’s Heinkel, and it was a very important company. Much more than Henschel.
You just hit a suicide bomber.
It’s like destroying an empty tank with a knife.
They were smoking.
The plane becomes uncontrollable not only with the loss of the pilot \ wings.
Number of case.
Everything is easier there.
All Soviet aircraft are named after the first two letters of the engineer surname.
That’s why I named it He.
Yea many big bombers was build at his factorys(how i remembered).
You just hit a suicide bomber.
It’s like destroying an empty tank with a knife.
No, I got shot down. Pilot sniped.
They were smoking.
Planes in enlisted always smoke. And even in warthunder (the game all these vehicles are ported over from), where that’s not the case, smoke means water/oil/fuel leak, and that’s not always deadly. It may be basically harmless or slowly destroy your engine over a few minutes time.
The plane becomes uncontrollable not only with the loss of the pilot \ wings.
Yes, destroyed control wires or cut off tail will also do that. But there’s no way to tell within enlisted, except for watching the behaviour of the plane. It’d be kinda similar as to how a plane acts when the pilot jumps out.
Number of case.
In total? That’s very low.
All Soviet aircraft are named after the first two letters of the engineer surname.
Not all. And with germany the case is the same (except it can also be the company, as unlike the USSR, those existed there). Henschel just has an exception, as to not confuse them with Heinkel, a completely different company. And that’s just the way it is. Shortening henschel to he is confusing, ignorant and stupid.
Yea many big bombers was build at his factorys(how i remembered).
As well as the first functional prototype jet aircraft.
Its luck.But i for ONE battle shot down ALL enemy IL-2 for ONE life.
Thats what was.
In 4 case it was,not in total.It was last case in this battle,where i was fly behind IL-2.In case number 5 he fly behind me and after my maneuvres lose control and fall to land.
In USSR they was,but owner was state\all people of USSR.Like the Kalashnikov concern.
It was messerschmitt,no?
Its luck.But i for ONE battle shot down ALL enemy IL-2 for ONE life.
Well, depends on what you consider shot down. If you consider it to be when you get the kill or actually destroy them midair (pilot, fire, etc).
And within none of the cases you shown were the wires cut. That would look like the plane simply lost any control. It’ll either fly straight, or just endlessly keep repeating the same motion over and over (like turning in a circle), as it’s control surfaces will be unusable, so that means it won’t be able to change direction or anything.
In 4 case it was,not in total.It was last case in this battle,where i was fly behind IL-2.In case number 5 he fly behind me and after my maneuvres lose control and fall to land.
Sorry, can’t understand that well enough to be sure I’m not misunderstanding something.
In USSR they was,but owner was state\all people of USSR.Like the Kalashnikov concern.
They were state owned workshops and factories. Much different from actual companies, as those would go against soviet communism.
It was messerschmitt,no?
No, Heinkel he-178. First flight 27 August 1939.
I was get exp for them.
They didn’t attack ground targets,because of me.
They didn’t hit me.
They fell.
I think that’s enough to say that I shot them down.
It’s better than writing without understanding the meaning.
Not much.
In general, it does not differ in any way.
It’s just that these companies have no income, and they produce for the state, not profit.And they receive subsidies from the state if it is satisfied with their work.
So different only in economic side.
Clear,not so famous plane as Me.
They didn’t attack ground targets,because of me.
None? That doesn’t seem believable.
Not much.
In general, it does not differ in any way.
It’s just that these companies have no income, and they produce for the state, not profit.And they receive subsidies from the state if it is satisfied with their work.
So different only in economic side.
It very much does. In the way it’s run is completely different. And companies do not need permission from the government to be created/function, nor are they directly managed by it. Unlike their soviet counterparts.
You can watch my videos again.
It doesn’t change the essence.
The various factories did not get worse from the fact that they were state-owned, not private.
You can watch my videos again.
If you mean those, then some of them are shown to get a ground target run in and others don’t show enough context. No clue if that’s the first run or a rearm run.
It doesn’t change the essence.
Still doesn’t mean it’s the same thing.
The various factories did not get worse from the fact that they were state-owned, not private.
That is debatable. And seeing as it’s far from the original topic, I’m not planning to get into that here.
I make video,when see in sky enemy IL-2.So they not make more 1 attack on the land.
Its mean the same thing.
That not is debatable.
Very good idea.