Fedorov Avtomat with a 10-round magazine 🇷🇺

[GROOT0404]

Yes it’d be closer to a semi auto, but at BR2 it would be stronger than any Semi auto other than the Fedorov 1912. It does more damage than the Armaguerra, has less recoil, more ammo and minimally more dispersion. It is not fit for BR2 as a mag fed weapon.

[X_BloodBandit_X]

Did you also forget the part about it being an event weapon. How many times has germany gotten something far better than anyone else’s tt stuff or even event/premmy stuff for that matter. Germany constantly breaks rules. This has a greenlight in my book.

They literally just got an AR that does 14.4 damage. Thing is nuts and crazy strong. Not to mention their mkb42 for br4 that’s hands down better than all br5 TT ARs. The scotti is the only thing that rivals it even with it’s small mag

[GROOT0404]

I’m not against adding it. I feel it’d be a good option for BR3 as it’s, in my opinion, too strong for BR2.

[X_BloodBandit_X]

It’s too weak for br3 with 10 rounds. Pretty much looses all benefit. The rpk would be a better option to bring

[GROOT0404]

I guess if you have an RPK, that’s also not the same class of weapon as the Fedorov so wouldn’t mean much of anything, it’d be a better option. I still think it’s too strong for BR2 if all that is changed from the standard Fedorov is the mag size.

[Veekay45]

Would the 15 round magazine be a realistic option?

I did a bit of a deeper search a while ago but didn’t reach a final conclusion so provided 2 variants:

Event weapon: Fedorov Avtomat (1916/1919) with 10/15 rounds as BR2 assault rifle

As stated in the quote above, allegedly, the Fedorov Avtomat we have in Enlisted is a Soviet-made improved 1920s version? (I don’t think the model is correct then, though). [image] In any case, The original WW1 Fedorov Avtomat model 1916 or 1919 could be added with BR2 stats as a performance-wise more historically accurate EVENT weapon (NOT tech tree). Fedorov Avtomat model 1916 reportedly had a version with a 15 rounds magazine and didn’t have the metallic front portion of fore stock: […

[GROOT0404]

I’d say the 15 round magazine would be better than a 10 round one, just too little ammunition with 10 round magazines. I still say it’d be suited to BR3, especially with the Mkb 42(H) 15 at BR3

[Декард]

Man I filmed it for you from a Artillery museum - what can be more realistic? -_-

[GeneralBrus]

Those dont one hit kill tho.

This is practically a BR5 weapon but with very small mag - might as well give it a clip reload so it would fit BR3

[GeneralBrus]

@X BloodBandit X@live

It’s too weak for br3 with 10 rounds. Pretty much looses all benefit. The rpk would be a better option to bring

What BR would you give a FG42 with a 10 round mag, also BR2 or what?

[Slakrrrrrr]

The beautiful thing about comparing the 10 round Fedorov with the MKb.42(H) 15: As they currently exist, the MKb needs 2 bullets per kill, therefore only being capable of killing 7 enemies per magazine with perfect efficiency, and at the speed that it requires to fire two bullets. The Fedorov, assuming it also gets 13.9 damage, would be able to kill 10 soldiers with it’s 10 bullets, at a much faster rate.

Now, if the MKb also dealt 13.9 damage, I think it would be fair for the Fedorov, while having 5 fewer rounds, to fire at it’s faster RoF (600 vs 500) and have better recoil and dispersion. I’m fine with 13.9 damage Assault Rifles being at BR 3, as long as the semi autos at the same BR deal 15.3 damage.

[Valkay]

Was just about to ask that.

[X_BloodBandit_X]

@GeneralBrus

This is practically a BR5 weapon but with very small mag - might as well give it a clip reload so it would fit BR3

So is the mkb (15)? It’s not clip fed and has more bullets. If it gets 15 with mag fed i think br3 would be fine. At only 10 i se br2 more than fair

[X_BloodBandit_X]

@Slakrrrrrr

13.9 damage, would be able to kill 10 soldiers with it’s 10 bullets

That’s point blank ranges. Only needs .5 damage drop off to not 1 hit kill. I’m not looking at stats right now, but i assume it’s not far at all probably 20m or so?

[Slakrrrrrr]

Yes, 13.9 damage no longer one-taps vitality at 21m. That’s a pretty common engagement range though, and it means 15.3 damage semi autos can perform better with one-taps up to 68m.

[X_BloodBandit_X]

@Slakrrrrrr

Yes, 13.9 damage no longer one-taps vitality at 21m

There’s a ton of engagement past 20m. The federov also has much worse recoil. The mkb(15) is really stable and accurate. Another point to the 10 kills for 10 bullets, is you’re probably only getting that in semi automatic fire (at close ranges), which I’m not sure if fed has or not honestly, but you’re probably squeezing off more than one round at a time per enemy. If it does have semi automatic firing, then it’s weaker compared to a semi automatic rifle there as well. I don’t really see any balance issues with the gun

[Slakrrrrrr]

The only people that really struggle to control the Fedorov’s recoil are people who don’t use vertical recoil perks. Otherwise, crouch and very lightly pull the mouse down or hold down the joystick. Practice in the practice range a bit.

And sure, there is tons of engagements past 20m, of which at that point the Fedorov is as strong as any other assault rifle, which isn’t horrible.

[X_BloodBandit_X]

@Slakrrrrrr

The only people that really struggle to control the Fedorov’s recoil are people who don’t use vertical recoil perks. Otherwise, crouch and very lightly pull the mouse down or hold down the joystick. Practice in the practice range a bit.

Doesn’t mean recoil can just be ignored. Just because you can “get gud” with it doesn’t negate the argument. It’s a form of balance. German gun easier to pick up and use especially for new players or those who aren’t great at FPSs, as well as console players who usually prefer a more stable firing gun. I do pretty good with the federov, but it’s shooting experience just doesn’t compare to stg, mkb42(m or w? The br4 one)

I will 9 times out of 10 take a worse stat/trait to use a more accurate weapon that has a better shooting experience

[LBE_S-G-44]

Mkb 15 federov 10 rounds both br 3 is fine for me

[GeneralBrus]

@X BloodBandit X@live

That’s point blank ranges. Only needs .5 damage drop off to not 1 hit kill. I’m not looking at stats right now, but i assume it’s not far at all probably 20m or so?

Fedorov is a BR5 rifle specifically because it one hit kills, a 10 round FG would never be fair in BR3, but your Fedorov could be, but only with a clip reload, like all BR3 semis should also have.