Payment = reward, it’s the law of life since the beginning of humanity as a society… This is just a ridiculous act.
That’s the kicker. If it was a paid-for thing, then I’d also expect better odds. But it isn’t.
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There are many games where it’s clear what’s paid and what’s free. You can’t just release something for free and expect people to pay. It’s ridiculous. If the developers aren’t even clear about that, don’t expect people not to complain about it.
I can give you several examples of free games with a balanced gambling.
Yes but not to gamble for squads, let people pay to play the event to get the rewards that way. Then are all already coded so could be an easy add. I would rather pay for 250 gold to get to grind for rewards…then use millions of free silver for a chance at them.
If are paid, this would be armed robbery…
Anyway, what I’m getting at is that such a ridiculous and greedy trick like this for something that’s free and that anyone could have gotten at the time is ridiculous… I would understand if it were premium units, but…
Probability math isn’t intuitive for most people - while the 1% chances don’t stack (ie having 5 rolls doesn’t give you 5% chance) the chances of getting that 1% do improve with more rolls.
This is because the 99% chance of NOT getting 1% also doesn’t stack.
So the chance of NOT getting that 1% AT ALL is (0 .99^n) - where “n” is the number of rolls.
For 5 rolls he chance of getting nothing is (0.99^5) = ~95.1% (which isn’t much different from the 1% stacking - but the difference gets much bigger with larger numbers)
So if you have 100 rolls, the chance of getting nothing from the 1% is (.99^100) - or about 36.7%.
From 500 rolls it is (.99^500) = ~0.66% - so you have to be very unlucky to get nothing (from the 1%) with 500 rolls - but it is still possible.
The chances of getting more than 1 item from the 1% can be similarly calculated and are subsets of the remainder after calculating the chance of getting nothing - I leave that to the reader 
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I feel like you’re all missing the point.
Silver is free, essentially. The loot boxes cost silver. They make the odds of winning stuff clear.
If there was a loot box that cost gold, then sure, I’d expect better odds.
But as it stands, that isn’t the case.
The odds are literally shown to you. It’s up to you to decide whether you want to play.
Think of it as a roulette wheel. The odds aren’t in your favour. But you can still play the game.
As I said earlier, the only real way to win, is not to play the game in the first place.
And I speak from someone who’s luck is shite when it comes to this type of game. Moderator’s Curse, and all that jazz.
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i hate this idea it means the only thing you own are premium bought content and that anything ‘earned’ in game does not belong to you are only ‘renting’ it until they decide to let people ‘earn’ it again… even items and squads are early access while buying a premium, is the only way top actually own it.
Payment in gambling doesn’t = reward. It’s a game of chance. This is what gambling is.
Sometimes you’re flush, sometimes you’re bust. That’s the game.
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They are basically premium units. The squads are some of the best squads in the game. The boxes aren’t for new players, it’s for players who have finished the tech trees and have an abundance of silver lying around. It’s an end game feature.
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I fully support the Dev’s making money, this is why the Dev’s either need to reopen their BP store, or give players the option to just buy the crap out of the mystery box if they don’t want to play “waste of your silver roulette”. 
There is a lot of money they are loosing by not allowing people to just purchase the stuff they want.
In 3-4 years, I have probably dropped a couple thousand US dollars on this game, and I know their are a lot of people like myself not afraid to drop money in the game.
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I don’t know if it would be a good solution, in order to be able to sell the XP boosters it might help dilute the problem a bit.
50% - 1500
75% - 2000
100% - 2500
300% - 5000
150k is 74% chance to get 0 squads and 21% chance to get 0 weapons. On average one in five people will have the same experience
It’s not that unlikely
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I believe everything is based on luck. In the gambles I took myself, I got better results than those percentages. With about 1.2 million:
5 squads
2 new battle passes
7 old battle passes
11 event weapons
So I don’t think the luck of the boxes has been manipulated.
Although I believe the chances of getting squads should be higher so that relatively new players can easily collect them, there are still 27 squads waiting for me there and I don’t think I’ll be able to get them anytime soon.
and:
well supercontainers have guaranteed ship for every 200 supercontainers.
well it is not like they are making money on those boxes cause they are for silver. unless there are whales who are buying loads of silver to gamble.
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Why not?
I think that, in the beginning, people were asking for ways to earn old event rewards, especially squads, that you missed out on in the past. This was the driving concern behind everything. The devs then took this as an excuse to implement a gambling system, so they can provide a technicly correct checkmark on the “way to earn old rewards” request. This is similar to the new map preference mechanic, it’s a half-arsed mechanic so they can pretend to have done something, and point towards a mechanic in game that supposedly filled the demand that they were never interested in filling in the first place. All so that they don’t actually have to address anything in a meaningfull manner.
Now, we’re stuck in a framework where we have to deal with these boxes, request changes to these boxes, when we should all realize that this is just a ruse. We can’t not talk about the boxes, and any complaints about the system can now be safely be ignored because “you’re just missunderstanding the point of gambling”, effectively the devs have cornered this issue and now it can be safely ignored.
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Randomness is not a way to earn something, you can spend 5k or 500k and get the same ammount of weapons (difference is that you get a whole load of boosters and raindeer decals with the second one).
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These boxes are not for veterans, as the name would imply, as veterans are the group least likely to benefit from old event rewards, they’ve been around long enough to most likely already have everything they wanted.
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These boxes are not for new players, because their silver is already needed to progress the game, and any leftovers are not realisticly going to get them anything.
These boxes have failed to become the solution they were initially framed as being, and it’s time we recognize this and begin asking once more for what we wanted in the first place. People want to rightfully earn the things they get in game, and gambling does not, and will not, satisfy this need.
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Nope. The whole ‘selling point’ of these boxes should be that of what community was asking the developers, - for the ability to get event stuff when the event is missed and ect… The developers were very proud when they announced these loot boxes, but that wasn’t what the community was asking for, instead - that past event rewards could be obtained by playing the actual game, just with new interesting ways apart from events. Devs in this case, took the easy way. And don’t lie to us that this is about artificial veterans who have millions of silver at their disposal. It’s not.
Enlisted have an “end-game”?
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Well, I have the entire tree unlocked and I don’t exactly have any money to spare… Especially because there’s always something to buy or upgrade… And because in the previous box event I spent 1.5 million and got nothing.
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