No dzień dobry bajtársak and fellow forumdwellers,
This is a shared suggestion made by @Valkay and @BulletTherapy
Before any of you point out that Polish Air Force in the West and Polish Armed Forces in the East are missing, they do on purpose as they deserve a suggestion of their own.
The Polish Armed Forces in the West were military formations loyal to the Polish government-in-exile, formed in France and later Great Britain after the defeat of Poland in 1939. Comprising army, air, and naval forces, they fought alongside Western Allies in major campaigns across Europe and North Africa, including the Battle of Britain, the Italian campaign, and the Normandy campaign. At their peak, these forces numbered around 240 000 troops, composed of evacuees, former prisoners of war, and escapees from occupied Europe.
The most famous feat of Polish soldiers in the west was breaking the stalemate in the four months long siege of Monte Cassino. Triumphantly raising the Polish flag over the ruins of the Abbey.
The uniforms and equipment of these units were supplied by the British empire and although the Polish government-in-exile was an independent ally of theirs, Britain treated Polish soldiers as its own colonial subjects. Polish uniforms and equipment were identical to that of British, Canadian or other soldiers of the empire with the exception of the shoulder patch that proudly exclaimed: Poland.
Considering the crucial role Polish Armed Forces in the West played in the Allied invasion Italy, a potential Italian campaign would simply be incomplete without Polish soldiers.
Polish paratroopers of the 1st Independent Parachute Brigade, notice the Orzeł Biały painted on their helmets
1st Independent Parachute Brigade was formed in September of 1941 by the government-in-exile with the intent to paradrop them in Poland in case of a nation wide uprising. However during the Warsaw uprising, this was denied by the British and the brigade´s baptism of fire was the disastrous Operation Market Garden.
In-game:
The 1st Independent Parachute Brigade is a Premium Paratrooper squad on the 1st Battle Rating (BR1) and they come with their own unique gun: the MCEM-2.
The contents of the paratrooper supply of the squad is identical to that of British paratrooper squads.
MCEM-2
The Machine Carbine Experimental Model 2 was developed by a team of Polish engineers, led by Lt. Jerzy Podsędkowski in Great Britain during the Second World War. Though the design never progressed further than prototype stage, it had many ground breaking features for its time.
It is the first submachine to use a “wrap-around bolt”, a feature that was later adopted by the infamous Uzi.
The gun is fed from an 18-round box magazine which is loaded through the pistol grip.
Though a revolutionary light weight and extremely portable design, its small magazine capacity coupled with its terrifying 1000 rounds per minute fire rate, ultimately made it an awkward design.
Ammunition: 9x19 parabellum
Magazine: 18 rounds magazine
Muzzle velocity: 380 m/s
Weight: 2.7 kg (empty)
Length: 360 mm
Barrel length: 220mm
Rate of fire: 1000 rounds per minute
Sources:
MCEM-2 - Modern Firearms
Historical Firearms - Machine Carbine, Experimental Model No.2 (MCEM 2) ...
1st Polish Independent Parachute Brigade | Soldiers from the Sky
- Yes
- Yes, but with a different gun
- No
Sherman firefly IC tanks of the 2nd “Warsaw” Armoured Brigade, Italy 1944.
The 2nd “Warsaw” Armoured Brigade was formed in December of 1943 in Palestine.
The division moved to Italy where it took part in the battle of Ancona and the battle of Bologna.
In-game:
4th ‘Skorpion’ Armoured Regiment is a tank squad of the 4th Battle Rating (BR4), with its quasi unique tank: the Sherman IC “Trzyniec”
Sherman IC “Trzyniec”
The brigade used light M3, M5 Stuarts and M4A1, M4A2, M4A4 Shermans as well as Firefly tanks.
The tank is identical to that of the premium Sherman Firefly, the only difference is the Polish crew.
I have not suggested a single vehicle since the new format for suggestions, so I presume that War Thunder wiki will suffice since I’m just asking for this vehicle to be ported, if not please contact me.
Source:
Sherman IC "Trzyniec" | War Thunder Wiki
https://www.britishmilitaryhistory.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/124/2019/12/2-Warszawska-Armoured-Division-1945.pdf
- Yes
- Yes, but with a different tank
- No
Polish soldiers of the Carpathian Rifle Brigade in North Africa
The 3rd Carpathian Rifle Division was formed from men that were released from Soviet workcamps in 1941. Its soldiers fought in the battle of Tobruk and also in some of the most intense battles of the Italian campaign, including the battle of Monte Cassino.
Jurek Mk.I submachine gun
Jurek mk.I (model A) with a 50 rounds Lanchester magazine
The Jurek Mk.I submachine was designed as a possible replacement to the STEN gun by Dr. Marian Jurek in 1942. Jurek was a Polish chemical engineer who had worked as the head of chemical RnD department of Państwowe Wytwórnie Uzbrojenia plant in Warsaw before the war and fled to France then Britain where he had enlisted in the 16th Polish Armoured Brigade as a workshop officer.
The design is extremely simple and utilizes many parts from existing and proven weapons.
The butt plate is just a P14 rifle´s butt plate welded to the rear of the tubes that serve as the stock of the weapon.
Ammunition: 9x19 parabellum
Magazine: 32 rounds STEN or 50 rounds Lanchester magazine
Muzzle velocity: 380 m/s (estimated)
Weight: 2.4 kg (empty)
Length: 530 mm
Barrel length: unknown
Rate of fire: 1000 rounds per minute
In-game:
In my opinion, it would best to add the Jurek mk.I with a 32 round STEN magazine and have the squad on BR3, because Allies does not have a BR3 assaulter squad.
Sources:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ForgottenWeapons/comments/dljzpv/polishbritish_submachine_gun_prototypes_by_dr/
Jurek and Get_Em_Puppy's World SMGs
The world's submachine guns (machine pistols) by Thomas B. Nelson
- Yes
- Yes, but not with the Jurek mk.I
- No
Polish soldiers of the 5th division are welcomed in Bologna, 1945
The Kresowa division was formed in Iraq in mid-1942 from Polish citizens that were released from Soviet workcamps. It had fought in the Italian campaign and distinguished itself during the battle of Monte Cassino, where its soldiers captured Hill 575 - and planted the Polish flag over the Abbey.
In-game:
the squad has a unique experimental structure of:
2x radio operators
2x engineers
1x machine gunner
Premium/event engineer and radio operator are some of the most underused squads in the game.
Perhaps a hybrid engineer-radio operator squad that has the best of both worlds would be more used. The squad does not have a unique weapon because their weapons can be changed. The unique feature of this squad is its experimental structure.
- Yes
- Yes, but not with the proposed squad structure
- No
