The MP.35/I at BR 3, while buffed, is a bit of a redheaded stepchild. However, while there is an incredibly high number of BR 2 SMGs for Germany, the closest option with similar performance to the favourite SMGs of other nations is the Beretta M38/42, trading a slightly slower RoF for a larger magazine. The MP.35/I can also fill this role, but instead getting a solid rate of fire for a slow reload speed.
As we can see, this brings the stats closer in-line with the other main options. Each weapon has some sort of advantage and/or drawback:
- Beretta M38/42 has a 40 round magazine, but only fires at 630 RPM - PPS-43 fires at 810 RPM and has 450m/s muzzle velocity, but only deals 6.7 damage - Lanchester is a jack-of-all-trades, master of none - M1A1 Thompson has high damage, but low muzzle velocity (standard .45 ACP tradeoffs) - Type 100 Early fires at 810 RPM and has the best recoil and dispersion, but only 350m/s muzzle velocity
and for the newcomer:
- MP.35/I fires at 750 RPM, but has a 2.7 second reload speed (bolt-action cocking lever)
There’s obviously some potential arguments for some of the existing BR 2 SMGs being too strong, but my intention with the MP.35/I is to be of average strength, perhaps being closest to the Lanchester. If you believe more stat nerfs are required to compensate for the extra 60 RPM rate of fire, please let me know!
I think give MP.35/I back the old damage alone which is 7.2 should do it on BR 3 with current RPM.
Personally i don’t think BR 2 Germany needs more SMG especially considering that the new upcoming BP reward weapon is also BR 2 SMG for Germany and it looks pretty decent.
“There’s obviously some potential arguments for some of the existing BR 2 SMGs being too strong, but my intention with the MP.35/I is to be of average strength, perhaps being closest to the Lanchester. If you believe more stat nerfs are required to compensate for the extra 60 RPM rate of fire, please let me know!”
The PPS-43, M1A1 and Type 100 early as they stand now should be br3 not 2. These 3 are clearly the best br2 smgs for their respective nations and have power crept their contemporaries. So by using them for your argument, you’re using powercreep to justify more powercreep. If you bring down the MP35/I then that’ll become the meta smg for br2 germany and the beretta will fade into yet another gun that nobody uses (br2 germany already has many of those).
I don’t disagree with this assessment, (assuming your using “redheaded stepchild” in the way I think your using it) but that doesn’t mean that it should go down to br2. Personally, i’d rather see its damage go back up to 7.2 and stay where it is.
Those 3 are definitely the main culprits, I agree. I believe the Lanchester should be the BR 2 standard. Hence why the MP.35/I has a slightly faster rate of fire, but a slower reload to compensate. Otherwise, you have to rely on the M38/42 that can’t win gunfights, or the Beretta M1918 that has a high skill gap.
If it remains at BR 3, no one will use it, which has been true for the weapon for a long time.
Personally, I think that there is a missing BR in terms of SMGs.
PPS-42, Lanchester, Beretta 38 are very reasonable BR2 SMG when we compare them to BR2 rifles, BR2 LMGs and BR1 SMGs.
While M1A1 Thompson, Type 100 (early) and even PPS-43 if it got a little buff are a BR better than them but still a BR worse than the BR3 top dogs (M1928A1, Type 100 (late), Ppsh41 stick mag).
In an ideal world:
BR2: Lanchester, Beretta38/42, PPS-42, MP28 (7.65).
BR"2,5": M1A1 Thompson, MP35/I, PPS-43, Type 100 (early).
BR3: M1928A1 Thompson, ZK-383, Ppsh41 stick mag, Type 100 (late).
The only issue here is that devs love powercreep and are obviously doing this on purpose (like M1A1 was NOT moved back to BR3 despite the endless begging even from Allied mains), so they would find a way to powercreep with a new or downtiered weapon, no matter how hard we try to balance them.
Except as said, highly unlike that they will be moved to BR3.
And currently it means that everyone else jp, ussr & murrica has smg that qualifies as BR3 gun only GE lacks one, so in this case this is more or less balance issue.
If they ever decide to move these to BR3, so can be mp35 moved back there.
The only MP 35 I use is the short barrel BR2 version, and it’s great for BR2, but I do not use the BR3 long barreled version at BR3 where it is outclassed by the ZK-383. So, I would be in favor of dropping it to BR2, and drop the FNAB and the MP-38 to BR1.
