Germany
Rather mkb 42 or Kiraly
Downtier sig 15 cm back to 2 as it belongs
Mg42 down to 3 (and the early variant)
US
M1 Thompson (has about same stats as the late type 100 smg without a bayonet but more damage)
Johnson mg (just a worse BAR)
*nothing I can think of for Russia and Japan since their br3’s are in peak shape it seems.
Should really be a br2 lmg with it’s actual rpm (I think it had around 600rpm according to it’s manual).
Also maybe the StuG III F?
Sure why not lol
I’d rather keep its current rpm since there was some reports of it being around 900 rpm too
It can achieve those rpms but it wasn’t meant to be used at those rpms, neither was it used at those rpms.
Fair point, either rpms work. Just put it at br3 is all I’d be happy with
You should really make separate suggestions for each these things.
Euthy said that its problematic to forward like this because its not clear what people really support, besides this suggestion is a mess and Im not even sure if you are suggesting Király to be BR3 or only suggesting mkb42(h) to get moved to BR4 next to Király.
If you mean for each gun then I apologize to euthy for that
Kiraly at br3 would be better if it’s what it takes to buff their br3 to compete against soviet ppSh
Kiraly is a very strong SMG, Im sure that it would lead to more powercreeping and there are alternatives.
FNAB-43 fire rate buff to its HA 800 rpm, Soumi kp31 with 36 rounds stick mag (9mm), steyr Mp40 with 1100 rpm would all be a better, more balance choice.
Both seem perfect and I have vouched for these 2 things in the past
Kiraly is better than any br4 smg us/uk
It is even better than the SMG of BR5.
Except for AR pretending to be SMG (M2A1)
Kiraly should stay in BR 4. It’s crazy powerful.
SIG should be no less than BR 3. Again, crazy powerful, and doesn’t need to see BR 1 matches. IMO the KV-2, SIG, and Sherman 105 should all be BR 4.
MG-42 is also fine in BR4
Assaulters can use ars and smgs how is it pretending to be an smg
Driver, Tanker, Pilot, and Guerrilla (It’s really good, especially when used by guerillas.)
Also, these weapons have .30 Thompson besides M2A1.
Honestly, the reason why developers are adding BR3 Mkb42 is a big problem with .30 Thompson.
This is one of the weapons that needs to be transferred to BR4, not BR3.
ahh ok
Thank you for your post.
Im sorry but I cannot support MG42 at BR III. The MG34 is perfectly fine, the MG42 would be OP as hell.
Especially when the Allies only have 20 round BAR and 30 round Bren guns with their annoying top mounted mags.
I am well aware the BARA2 is a great gun but people forget it is a great automatic rifle with 20 rounds. There’s a BIG difference between an automatic rifle and a light machine gun like the MG34 with its 50 rounds.
The Kiraly is a hard one because as others have said its a bit too OP for BR III, but I also recognise its underpowered or at least kinda pointless at BR V when you can just get assault rifles instead.
I believe this is a wider problem with BR IV rather than individual weapons. BR IV has very little content for all factions so youre either OP at BR III or redundant at BR V.
Personally I would separate all BRs so they dont face each other, then move proper WWII content from BR V to BR IV and let BR V be the late war fantasy prototype land with jet spam.
I do however agree with the Johnson especially, it is very true it is a worse BAR. We also have the Johnson rifle at BR III.
Id actually compare the Johnson to the MG 13, so the Johnson could potentially be BR II.
I believe we should get a Vickers K or some other LMG for BR IV.
Ideally I would like to see the following:
BR II: Vickers-Berthier, Bren guns, M1918BAR, Johnson LMG
BR III: M1918A1 and A2 BAR, Lewis gun
BR VI: Vickers K, 50 round M1919.
I also agree with downtiering the M1 Thompson. It would be nice to see some more Owen gun or Sten gun variants. Maybe BR IV or BR V SMG for Allies could be the Sterling.
(Sterling SMG was tested in 1944/1945. It didnt properly replace the Sten gun until 1953 but since it was tested it should be allowed in game at high BR based on the precedent of, well, most high BR content tbh.)
Agreed
BR change suggestions need to be individual or at the maximum having 2 things, I can already tell which ones are controversial from this list
You also need to provide actual arguments as just saying “move this gun to br x” is an easy way for your suggestion to be rejected by devs
