Downrank the MKB-15 to Br-2

After playing it side by side to the Br-2 mkb its become clear how bad that gun is.
Its straight up worse than the lower BR version.

    1. downrank it to Br-2
    1. do NOT reduce the ammo count, the gun already sucks way too much. with 10 bullets it would be too weak even for Br-2

EDIT - alternative ideas:

  • putting it to BR1 with 10 rounds
  • keeping it the way it is now and opening it up to all infantry classes (least amount of work required)
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Just nerf and put in BR1 if it has 10 rounds

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thats another option but i know gaijin 100% would not do it, thatswhy i didnt bother mentioning

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If it was a br2 rifle not an assaulter weapon then it’d be great.

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If a weapon would suck if it’s real life characteristics were depicted accuretly then there’s something wrong with the game.

The 10 round magazine should hold 10 rounds, not whatever ammount we feel like it should have.

Would that make it a “poor assault rifle”? Yes. So, just give it another role where it will excel. A select-fire rifle, perhaps. Being able to give automatic weaponry to soldiers outside the medic or assaulter classes would be hugely effective, even in BR III, without that choice being obviously better than the TT options.


My thoughts exactly. Just give it a role where it will excel, accurate weapons don’t have to be bad weapons.

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I tested this using one of my mods, it is awful. You get 10/40 with no ammo bag and run out almost instantly. I’m a big HA nerd, however, in this case I just pretend that my engineers modified the magazine. It needs the 15 rounds

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The solution would be to give it more reserve ammo by default or if it was in a rifle class this is a non issue because it would change how it’s meant to be played.

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Yes.

You really should be using that thing in semi-auto when it’s with a 10 round magazine, reserving full auto for emergencies. That would be exactly like how SF rifles are normaly played, unless you have a ammo bag ammunition conservation is the name of the game for all of them.

So yeah, a non-issue if that was the case.

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reserve ammo is close to irrelevant if the base ammo makes a gun unplayable.

a full auto gun with 20 rounds +20 reserve is way stronger than the same gun with 10 rounds +100 reserve.

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Yes that is true, but he was referring to overall ammo when he said this :point_down:

So my response should be considered within the context of this debate.

As for a 10 round mag, if it was in the rifle category for br2 then it’s magazine’s ammo count would be about average.

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I think this would actually be a good idea. Could make for some unique gameplay.

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I like the idea of opening it to infantry classes…or add extra mags and a bayonette. If it went to BR II I would pick my MKB 35 over it anyday.
They really need to start unlocking 4 of these weapons in an event as it’s the minimum to outfit a squad…which you were supposed to be able to for combating the paratroopers.

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What fcking useless ideas I’m reading here. It’s an Assault Rifle, limited Mag, but those 15 shots still fly in Auto mode, still in same M/S and still do the same dmg. Use as intended for a fun weapon for BR III Assaulters. stop coming up with these idiot ideas.
At BR II it’s too strong, at IV too weak, III is perfect place. USe it as intended, semi firing and in last case Auto.
Situational awareness and and use ur weapon at distance and in situation where is preferable.
Stop with the nonsense

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Nah good as it is i would just like a 12.0 damage like federov compesating the lact of ammo

Else if this gun is just another pointless weapon on the sea of stupid and useless stuff that germany have

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If they are going to keep it as a 15 round weapon then they should at least update the magazine model to reflect what an actual 15 round mag for MKB looks like. Post-War 15 round mags exist, you can find videos of people shooting these MKB’s with 15 round mags, the mag should be longer.

15 rounds, wow, how dangerous
Most US and USSR submachine guns BR1, BR2 and BR3 have a higher rate of fire and ammunition magazine

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At least, it’s usable at the moment, even if mediocre (I like the new sharp iron sight different from the 30 rounds mkb for reasons).

Unlike the Scotti, which is just bad in br5.

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…soo.

Sounds perfect for a “select fire”

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What an in-depth analysis, with lots of data and performance to back it up

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