It is way to easy to destroy friendly rally points right now, just a stab and it’s gone and like the troll you are you put down your own down in its place. Just had a match where I saw this happen so I responded by smashing his rally points in return since there’s no friendly fire. How about just disabling destruction of friendly rally points (and ammo crates) unless you were the one who built them.
Speaking of engineer structures, some troll occupying my AA will prevent me from dismantling it and building a new one in a better position and without friendly fire there’s no way to fix it, even if it’s out of ammo they can just sit there to be annoying. The one who made the engineer structures should be able to dismantle them regardless if someone is using them, it should also be possible to take over the use of the structure if someone else is occupying it and being useless.
NO!
- and then how do I destroy the rally points placed by trolls or inexperienced players who put them in the open field under the fire of the enemies
- you receive points if your structures are used by other players so good or bad is always good for you and the structures cannot be dismantled or occupied if used always because of the trolls
Dont use them?
Hell no! I dont want trolls building everything full with indestructible sandbags and wires. And as for the stolen AA, that is surely inconivient, but by far not the end of the world. A better solution for that would be some exp share for the engineer who built the stuff, for every kill it scores, no matter who is using it.
OBJECTION!
And how i know if they are rallypoint troll if i dont use them?
This!
I lost count how many times I lost a match because everyone was spawning on the 4th floor of a building that looked close to the objective from the spawn map, only to take an eternity to actually get to the objective.
Trolls who destroy rallies are more of an issue really. If attic spawns or uncovered outdoor spawns are an issue for enough people they should just make some simple indicators for spawns are beyond 2nd floor level (attic) or dangerous spawn (open, no cover). If I wanted to spawn on someone else’s spawn (why aren’t you making your own?) I would like some indicator, I would mostly stay away from outdoor spawns if they were not behind cover or in a forest and if I wanted to rush right away I would stay away from spawns above ground level.
Private spawns wouldn’t be a bad thing either, being able to place 1 spawn only your squad could spawn on in addition to 1 spawn for the whole team. If that was a thing I would be slightly less irritated at the trolls who destroy friendly rally points.
Simple color marks for which floor they are on or if they are in the unprotected open (or my private spawn idea).
Once again some simpleton decides to respond, “fuck you” - grow up kid. I thought I was talking to a civilized adult, never mind this discussion.
O yes a fuck you dont pointed at you and im a kid in meantine you say you want your personal spawn and dont coperate with the rest of the team and you are an adult 
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grow up kid the world is a bad place
O yes just for clarify if anyone is not eng and dont speak well english is automatically pointed for beign insult o thanks for say this to me you have actually show me your age 12y 13y no 9y so i dont want insult a 9y old kid because im a normal person by dont insult you teacher at school bad kid
So this is an excuse for this seriusly? i pity you really im a good person so i dont insult you close this discussion
Mods, please. The monkeys are on the loose again
Me or the other? I want know only because you posted under me
The whole thread degenerated real quick, no need to be specific
ill destroy any spawn point that spawns my AI in a place where they cant pathfind their way out
No.
Not only because of troll placed spawnpoints or those placed in dangerous spots. But also because sometimes the spawnpoint offers no cover from enemy fire due to the poor placement and the fact the enemy KNOWS it’s location. I’ve seen many spawnpoints that were NOT destroyed by the enemy because
1- it offered no advantage to our team
2- the enemy used it as an xp factory.
Mainly because of point 2 it’s important to destroy those points, you will help the team alot and save alot of tickets that would just be used to feed the enemy.
And those who say “don’t use them”, I could be petty as well an give a dumb answer of my own: “don’t build spawn points in stupid places”… Also like someone else mentioned, most of the time teammates won’t know it’s a dangerous death factory until they use it, die in the second and waste precious tickets. Not to mention bots, who will use the point REPEATEDLY until a new spawn closer to the objective is built! (That’s alot of wasted ticket)
Friendly spawn destruction must remain.
But I DO want a mechanism to prevent trolls from doing havoc…
While I disagree with you, at least you seem capable of communicating so let me explain the issue. I have made perfectly placed rally points only to have teammates chop them to bits with a few stabs. Both for trolling and for placing new spawn points in the exact same place (don’t see why on that last bit, maybe to get the meagre engineer points even though they are useless on the score board).
You mentioned a mechanism to prevent trolls but I wonder how you would get such a mechanism to prevent trolls from wrecking havoc without just disabling the ability to break friendly rallies? It just seems that my suggestion would be a very simple implementation without requiring a lot of scripting on behalf of the devs.
I did not mean to insult you personally I have just gotten tired of the troll responses to serious posts I have made on this forum, I’ll delete the post.
I agree that something, anything in fact, that would punish, or better, prevent troll behaviours would be a good thing, as nobody like those and they are bad for the team. As such I am open for a mechanism that would address this issue… but giving invulnerability to friendly spawn points isnt the solution. Trolls would remain, I’ve seen many, MANY spawnpoints completly encircled and sometimes even COVERED in barbed wire, for example… just troll traps. Those MUST be dismantled because as I mentioned, even if a human learn after spawning there once, bots don’t and will keep using it. This could cost the team it’s victory.
Problem is I don’t know what could be implemented to prevent trolls to be, if that is even possible.