Change the deserter penalty

[ErikaKalkbrenner]

i have made longer answers for much less if that amuses you.

but all just to set the record straight

although, ask your self this;
do penalties affect custom matches and mods?
answer is, no.

some people can see reasons even if doesn’t benefit or directly affects them.
not a crazy concept to grasp if you ask me

it’s like saying that it is impossible for an individual who asks/suggests free slots for f2p. because apparently there has to be ulterior motives or self interest even if it doesn’t benefit that said individual.

[ErikaKalkbrenner]

@CptFath13

then where is the fun?

the fun is in to turn around the situation.
and letting the baddies have a rough time too.

perhaps could be considered " destructive " behavior and fun can be subjective. but usually there’s a reward and a challenge.

otherwise, you’re not really there to play.

how convenient to leave rofl stomp matches when it’s done to your team, but completely fine to do and stays in the match when it’s the opposite and done to the enemy.

[VoyoMayPL]

@ErikaKalkbrenner

the fun is in to turn around the situation.
and letting the baddies have a rough time too.

That’s a difficult when we lost 50% of the 2nd objective before I managed to spawn my 2nd squad after the first one was whipped out within 10s from the start.
Now excuse me, I need to build a sandcastle in the backline while waiting for the match to end.

[ErikaKalkbrenner]

@CptFath13

how am i gonna turn the table if its not the map that i like? by just looking at the loading map screen that i hate, my mind already want to desert and not want to play, and like i said even if i have a bad team and not rofl stomp enemy team, as long as it moscow i will not leave.

@VoyoMayPL

That’s a difficult when we lost 50% of the 2nd objective before I managed to spawn my 2nd squad after the first one was whipped out within 10s from the start.

i refuse to believe that in 5 points of a map it’s not possible to either:
( well… ugh. assuming it’s an invasion. but the same applies to any other gamemode. you literally have rally points. the easiest tool to win most situations even if teams are bad )

and that’s coming from an average player:

• attack it from the flanks while placing a rally

• find one of said 5 points to lock down

and yes. it was difficult to do when penalties weren’t a thing.
and technically even now considering that aren’t really that big of a deal.

but i guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.

[VoyoMayPL]

@ErikaKalkbrenner

well… ugh. assuming it’s an invasion. but the same applies to any other gamemode. you literally have rally points. the easiest tool to win most situations even if teams are bad )

• attack it from the flanks while placing a rally

Dude (dudess? is there even a female form?), in such matches objectives fall before I finish building a rally. There is nothing my sorry noob ass can do to turn the tables around.
Best thing I can do is to move away from the front of a lawnmower.

[ErikaKalkbrenner]

@VoyoMayPL

in such matches objectives fall before I finish building a rally. There is nothing my sorry noob ass can do to turn the tables around.

part of the challenge is to bond with strangers and overcome such adversities

and again, nothing wrong to team up with others.
at least, as of yet.

@CptFath13

its not about the strategy its about the map, if im not get moscow map, my mind already tell me to leave because i know iam not having fun there even if my team pro i will leave. i play enlisted because of moscow map. so other map will make me leave

jeez aren’t you a " stuck in the past " individual.

campaigns aren’t even a thing anymore.

and purpously playing this game just to sabotage others because the world doesn’t cave to your own necessities is purely vile.

if anything, customs are there for ya.

[VoyoMayPL]

@ErikaKalkbrenner

part of the challenge is to bond with strangers and overcome such adversities

So teamplay? In enlisted?
Stop drinking, sober up and then come back.

[ErikaKalkbrenner]

@VoyoMayPL

So teamplay? In enlisted?
Stop drinking, sober up and then come back.

enlisted unironically does not reward teamplay.

but rally points are the golden (somewhat) understood rule.

and… again,

@ErikaKalkbrenner

nothing wrong to team up with others.

[VoyoMayPL]

@ErikaKalkbrenner

but rally points are the golden (somewhat) understood rule.

The objective have already fallen by the time you’ve finished building.

@ErikaKalkbrenner

and… again,

@ErikaKalkbrenner

nothing wrong to team up with others.

It’s wrong when it’s mandatory. It’s no Squad nor HLL, playing solo shouldn’t be a misery.

[ErikaKalkbrenner]

@CptFath13

what? im not forcing people. i just suggesting that map selection will be good and it will maybe kinda solve the problem with people deserting, than if they add selection map than penalties deserting is okay

perhaps a bit of extremist argument, but if everyone would start leaving because of X or Y we wouldn’t have a game to frikkin play.

and what you described, is to ask for only to play on moscow.

like if that’s even possible to do post merge.
( well, you can by playing customs. but point is, you aren’t the only one player existing and / or playing this game. it is not feasable to just play 1 campaign out of 6 for a set of maps. which you’re effectively leaving in the other players that they didn’t asked for an extreamist that only wants to play moscow )

@VoyoMayPL

It’s wrong when it’s mandatory. It’s no Squad nor HLL, playing solo shouldn’t be a misery.

i’m sorry, but most games are a misery when playing solo.

there aren’t perfect games where other groups are hard separated.
not even in Wt.

( which… effectively has became a metric now given how many things are similar. and we are closely approaching )

you people are only convincing me that desertion is a serious issue.
and might actually bring me towards the edge of making me invested just to prove common sense apparently.

[CaptainSebekel]

@ErikaKalkbrenner

and that’s coming from an average player:

[ErikaKalkbrenner]

i mean.

am i wrong?

have you seen my loadouts too ?
i’m basically almost gifting victories to my enemies by using historical loadouts.
yet always manages to win and lose here and there.

making the best with the situation at hand.

[CaptainSebekel]

@ErikaKalkbrenner

using historical loadouts.

The average Enlisted player is known for caring about horse attrition and mostly using rifles.

[VoyoMayPL]

@ErikaKalkbrenner

i’m sorry, but most games are a misery when playing solo.

Yeah but typically you try to fight it, not embrace it.

@ErikaKalkbrenner

you people are only convincing me that desertion is a serious issue.

I dessert maybe 5% of my matches.

@ErikaKalkbrenner

and might actually bring me towards the edge of making me invested just to prove common sense apparently.

Such common sense as “fighting an awful, unwinnable fight (more like a rape really) is fun”?

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I’m not against dessertion penalties themselves. I’m against BS mental gymnastics ppl make to justify stick instead of carrot.

[ErikaKalkbrenner]

@CaptainSebekel

The average Enlisted player is known for caring about horse attrition and mostly using rifles.

what is that supposed to mean

@VoyoMayPL

Yeah but typically you try to fight it, not embrace it.

you can’t really change that.
can you.

@VoyoMayPL

I dessert maybe 5% of my matches.

still a 5% too much.

@VoyoMayPL

Such common sense as “fighting an awful, unwinnable fight is fun”?

no. comradery, giving the middle finger to group stacks, and even when all odds are against ya, still come on top.

sportman-ship of some kind.

now, it would be foolish to assume everyone has the same ideas and way to go about it.

but as far as it goes for common sense,

desertion is bad when you have people leaving because apparntly not even the map is enough to bear for just a single or few matches of 15 mins each.

then you have people leaving at the beginning which sure, they get replaced, but it is a disadvantage as they join " late " and then you have others that leaves at the first sight of resistance.

which effectively no matter what, makes desertion a serious issue as it affects those that didn’t asked for it. almost forcing a side to lose.

@VoyoMayPL

I’m not against dessertion penalties themselves. I’m against BS mental gymnastics ppl make to justify stick instead of carrot.

i on the other hand, do not see why people should be rewarded for doing what they are supposed to.

i mean, why else would you be playing enlisted?.
just to leave most matches?

and then justifiy it with their own mental gymnastic.

personally, i just see how it affects most matches and desertions is a spiral curse / plague.

which again, doesn’t affect me in the short term.
but it will on the long run.

[CaptainSebekel]

@ErikaKalkbrenner

what is that supposed to mean

That nobody cares about historical accuracy and not everyone hangs around in low BR with rifles or in custom. Or get a 2+ KD with most kills being rifles.
You are the 1% like the rest of us, deal with it.

[ErikaKalkbrenner]

@CptFath13

a map selection is not extream, there is no way some people hate map selection

map selection is not extreame.

you on the other hand, refusing to play most matches if it doesn’t appear to be moscow.

it 100% is.

@CptFath13

, and if i leave a match because i dont like the map there is no way its make my team who stay downside or shit them because it will change with other player or bot who is better than deserter you said right. and i will not downside or shit my team because i leave if there is map selection in the first place.

then i guess someone will have to get comfortable with penalties.

but i can guarantee you, that in your case, or similar ones, a map selection will not solve your issue.

[VoyoMayPL]

@ErikaKalkbrenner

no. comradery, giving the middle finger to group stacks, and even when all odds are against ya, still come on top.

I don’t think that ppl doing the rape will even notice my middle finger.

@ErikaKalkbrenner

i mean, why else would you be playing enlisted?.
just to leave most matches?

To have fun? I’m ok with loosing matches, I’m not ok with being hopelessly raped as this doesn’t fit my definition of “fun”.
But I guess the solution is not to improve anything but to add more penalties so the victim doesn’t escape.

[ErikaKalkbrenner]

@CaptainSebekel

That nobody cares about historical accuracy and not everyone hangs around in low BR with rifles or in custom. Or get a 2+ KD with most kills being rifles.
You are the 1% like the rest of us, deal with it.

first of all,

i will not take such slander.

i do care about historical accuracy.
but you don’t see me suggestion it or forcing it on other people?.

second of all, no. i do not have many " ha " low br presets.

i have more, but these are the ones i use lately.

USA

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Germany

Ussr

Japan

so yes, even with rifles i can somehow turn around the situation.

and you know why?

because i do not leave people at first sign of discomfort.

[ErikaKalkbrenner]

@VoyoMayPL

I don’t think that ppl doing the rape will even notice my middle finger.

@VoyoMayPL

To have fun? I’m ok with loosing matches, I’m not ok with being hopelessly raped as this doesn’t fit my definition of “fun”.

then why are you opposed to joining with other solo to form a group or team.

@VoyoMayPL

But I guess the solution is not to improve anything but to add more penalties so the victim doesn’t escape.

… or put back in line those who run.