Can somebody make a suggestion about downtiering jeeps to br1?

I can’t do it for some reason, so I would be really glad if somebody does that. Thank you.

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you need to click on the sub section of the suggestions first before it lets you pick one

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click on battle rating and once that opens it should let you mak one

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BR1 with four soldiers minimum, otherwise I view it as a waste.

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The jeeps can easily stay in BR2 because of the MGs mounted on them. Otherwise, yeah, they’d be in BR1.

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Same mgs that’s in bikes?

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Yup

See back there?

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Suppose to be 50 cal mount on those jeeps

Soo br1 bike has same mgs why jeeps should be br 2

The German jeep for high-level squads could be downgraded to Tier 1, as it is equipped only with a general-purpose anti-aircraft machine gun rather than a heavy machine gun or anti-tank gun.

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Hmm, I think we could make that distinction. Some jeeps really only seat three people. We could put those 3-seater ones at BR1, and the 5 or 6-seater variants at BR2.
The advantage and disadvantage in crew size is huge, so this works well to separate BR1 and BR2.

No matter how good your weapons are, if you only have three crew members, your floor is extremely low.
But with five people, you can even use it as an assault squad to push right into objectives effectively.

Actually, that’s what I’ve been wondering. Tanks like the T-60 and T-26 have thick armour, a main gun and machine guns, even autocannons, yet they only have a crew of two or three. So why are they allowed to stay at BR1? Following that same logic, why haven’t those tanks been moved up to BR2?

Jeeps are open-top. Vehicles like this in the game are slow, and being open-top makes them extremely vulnerable, basically sitting ducks. Their survival rate is terrible. BR1 would be their best fit, where they can fight against enemies armed with bolt-action rifles on a somewhat even footing.

If they get pushed up to BR2, they’ll just get wiped out instantly.

It’s more about mobility, the jeeps in all factions are more faster and smaller compared to a tank, like T60 or T26. Yeah they haven’t armor at all, so the squad can be wiped out pretty easily, with bolt actions and semiauto, by the way are present also submachine guns both in BR1-2 and BR1-3.

Lastly, I totally agree with two things: the German and Japs “jeeps” are for BR1. Only because they have a ~30/50 ammo magazines compared to the M1919 MG and the Soviet one with ~250 ammo.

Tell me what you think about my opinion.

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There is mobility, after all. In a way, you can roughly think of it as a squad that can keep sprinting nonstop, and the jeep can also capture objectives.
That is definitely one of its strong points.

But the game’s biggest issue comes down to mobility. The handling of almost every vehicle feels like it has been cut in half compared to War Thunder.
What’s more, jeeps struggle badly when rolling over obstacles.
I tested running a jeep over an ammo crate in the training ground, and it took around 30 seconds. It even brought my speed down to zero.
I could have covered the same distance on foot faster.

On top of that, jeeps have no suspension. So the idea of firing while moving over rough terrain, which you see in promotional videos, is basically impossible in practice. In my opinion, unless the weapons mounted on jeeps get buffed so players can manually stabilize fire on slightly uneven ground, they won’t be that useful.
Otherwise, jeeps mostly end up acting like stationary cover.

Jeeps have quite a few flaws.
When I drive a tank, I can roll over many small obstacles without trouble.
Yet these same objects on the road act almost like anti-tank barriers for cars.
I’ve seen plenty of players forced to abandon their jeep after getting stuck on something. The vehicle gets snagged and its speed drops to zero.

Take some town maps as another example. DF fills the area around capture points with buildings, trees and rocks on purpose. If you want to engage enemies from the jeep, you have to drive right up front — but once you get there, you just get cut down quickly by submachine gun fire.

Machine guns rely on suppressive fire.
Right now, the armed SUVs are missing one key design feature: soldiers should be able to hunker down deeper inside the vehicle when firing, exposing less of their upper bodies.

Looking at the current tech tree, Japanese jeeps and Germany’s advanced jeeps can only carry three people for specific reasons, much like motorcycles. Though motorcycles actually have room for a fourth or fifth passenger.

This is why I think we should sort them by crew capacity. Reload times may be somewhat slow, but it’s still a machine gun. Once set up at a capture point, it can lay down constant suppression. The jeep’s weapon also gets improved heat management. You only need to reload once, and you can keep firing as long as it does not overheat. It works really well for machine gun suppression.

I support putting all jeeps that can only hold 3 to 4 people into BR1, the same as motorcycles. The variants that have space for two extra passengers, bringing the total up to five people, can go to BR2. The vehicle’s weapon sets the upper limit of its performance. The floor of its performance, however, stays very low.

The weapon cannot raise the ceiling too much, but the number of crew members pushes up the baseline reliability.
That is why I think we should sort them based on passenger count.

Take capturing objectives for example.
Numbers are what really matter here.
I’ve heard DF said jeeps can capture points, but I still wonder — when it comes down to it, does the capture speed depend on how many people you’ve got inside the jeep, whether it’s 5 men or 3? Or does it just count as one single vehicle regardless?

Numbers are critical. In certain tight or interesting scenarios, you can drive a King Tiger, relying on its heavy armour to charge straight into the point. Then those 5 soldiers can rush out with their kangdesi machine guns and strike fast.
Or you can fly in with the GU 188, hold altitude at a certain height, then jump out low to the ground and seize the objective in the blink of an eye.
All of this highlights just how important manpower count is.