Can one of the devs, helpers please explain why?

Why is it that some vehicles and tanks have their proper names and planes on Pacific are called random names ie Ap-1 - is this because Gaijin may not have the rights to use their real name (why would Grumman say no?)

There are loads of WW2 multiplayer games, I don’t think I have noticed dummy names before?

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Yep, it’s because of copyright reasons.

I really don’t understand why they couldn’t choose different plane or else rather than implement such immersion breaking nonsense.

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Pov: you execute a copyright on a 80 yo plane

This is the real nonsense.

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you can thank disney for that… they are constantly extending copyright protections cause of them.

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Doesn’t work forever though.

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Don’t think it’s copy right. War Thunder, also owned by Gaijin, doesn’t seem to have this issue. Stuff like F-4F is a military designation, not even sure if those are copywriteable.
The “Grumman Wildcat” might be copywriteable but F4F probably not.

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It already was discussed in previous topic back then.

The Crusader in Tunisia is a Crusader III but it´s just called “Crusader”. Might be worth correcting that if they want to add the previous models as a premium or whatever.

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The copyright thing really doesn’t make sense given the many other games throughout the years that have used the proper designations of the aircraft.

Here in the US, Activision won a lawsuit from AM General that allows the use of Humvees in their games without licensing and despite active trademarks.

I’m just curious how the decision was made that specifically Grumman airframes used by the US military over 80 years ago are suddenly off limits exclusively for Enlisted

Whether or not it makes sense doesn’t really matter.

Adding plane with completely made up name while you can add X alternatives with proper names doesn’t make sense neither. :man_shrugging:

Why not? I’d like to know a real reason why they made such an odd choice because I care about the minimal amount of authenticity brought by using the proper names for the equipment represented in game.

If it’s not something you care about you’re being oddly defensive about it, and if you do care why are you coming down on the side of corporate censorship?

I already told you, lol. That’s what they stated before.

If you are trying to made up 1000 logical reason why it doesn’t make sense really doesn’t mean a thing nor will change reality.

I don’t know if you’re darkflows legal counsel, otherwise I’m not really turning to you for answers.

I press the question because that reason just sounds like bullshit to me and I don’t believe it’s a true thing.

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You answered your question by asking your question.

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Notice that all of the funny named aircraft are Grumman aircraft? Grumman has weird copyright things going on with it’s planes, WT needed to directly licence the names from Grumman IIRC. Devs are probably too cheap to do the same here.

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So I finally just went and searched thru Northrop Grumman’s trademarks and sure enough; they have active trademarks for all of their WWII aircraft specifically related to models, toys, and games.

I guess being one of the worlds largest, richest and most politically powerful arms dealers in the world isn’t enough if they can’t squeeze some revenue from WWII enthusiasts too.

I still think it’s bullshit, but now I’m more mad at NG

Well Lockheed has the same type of trademark for the P-38, they just arn’t nearly as anal about royalties and whatnot. Still, guess we can expect the P-61 to be the PF-1 or or something if we ever get that.

Someone told me this is what the marine divisions renamed them. not the navy itself nobody told me it was copyright.