Buffs to the Bf 109 F-4/Trop

Honestly the 15mm MG151 is ass. It has abysmal ammo composition

I think much more significant buff would be increasing it’s 20mm ammo count but I don’t believe it could hold more than 200 rounds in WT

Giving it the 15mm cannons would make it slightly better, but I doubt it would even matter as much, and especially I don’t think they would be significant enough to make me go ‘oh no no, with this change this plane becomes too powerful’

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In my mind, it’s not so much that it would suddenly become OP, but more of not wanting so many things going for a mid tier plane (in general, not just against germany). Good gun/cannon composition, good ammo belts, good bomb load, good speed, good turn rate. Especially when you start comparing it to u.s. fighters of br3, nothing has all those things going for it.

Not at all. Soviet teams often lose.
It is necessary to make German weapons worse.

Maybe it’s because of the teams and not the equipment? Soviet gear is 90% of the time on par or better than axis stuff. I’ve played the USSR plenty, there is absolutely no problem with the gear at all.

I watched the reruns. I had an AUTH-40-20 and another player. The other allies are SVT-38, Mosin rifles, and KV-1s all the time. The Germans mostly have FG, STG, Panthers, and in the rink that I watched, only one German had a rifle.
What’s the point of improving Soviet weapons if 2-3 people take them in battle? German weapons should be made worse.

That’s a bad argument, nerfing a faction’s weapons that are on the correct BR just because enemy players suffer from a lack of IQ and use lower BR weapons is a bad idea. The entire balance for a faction shouldn’t depend on people using less powerful weapons on high BR, what happens when they use the proper equipment?

If everyone uses normal weapons, victory finally happens. And personally, I want compensation for all those defeats, tomorrow I will send in private messages the results of the battles during the time of the companies and now.
How do you think the problem should be solved? Definitely not by improving the weapons of the winning team. Personally, it seems to me that someone is sending bots to play for the Soviet team.

By removing USSR ( players ) or sending them to similar state as consoles where they could play “USSR only” comparable to “console only”

This way, we could remove the wheelchair assists of soviets and finally either nerf ussr or buff others to be on par with them.

Was forwarded from @Euthymia07-live months ago but unfortunately no changes yet -.-

Changes to Bf 109 F-4/trop (buff) - Archive / Suggestions - Archive - Enlisted

Not gonna lie, compared to what Axis and Soviets have at the moment on BR3, these aircraft would better fit in BR4.
Buffing Axis and Soviets up is the obvious answer to this.

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Is this an irony post?
I won 4 out of 4 matches today with BR3 Soviets.

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Only the soviets the Axis have FW that is very good plane but its not for all. Not to mention Japanese tanks and ground attackers are a joke. Germany BR III is OK. But the Soviets have the best tanks at BR III so really dont know are really the Allies and Japan that great but BR III Germany is solid much better then BR II Germany and much better then BR III Japan since Japan has only the Ki -100 but they can be swapped it with Ki-61-II Otsu Kai.

When you remove the Ki-100 what other Japanese vehicle is good ?
All the Japanese BR III vehicles are literally BR II Axis/Allies and Soviet vehicles.

Poor clown probably didn’t equip armour on all his men, therefore he suffers… :upside_down_face:

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I mean, the P51-D5 kinda has it all. Flies faster, turns bit worse but holds 2x500lb, where even singular 500lb is comparable to the 250kg SC

6x Browning is essentially 4 brownings vs single 20mm cannon when you put 2x15mm on the F-4 Trop

Furthermore there’s also the event Spitfire MkIX that’s way too powerful for BR2

I think double the payload for 1.5s worse turnrate is decently good trade-off but I’d have to ponder this a bit more

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15mms are indeed ass…

they used to be good with API (c) but that ammo has long since nerfed to oblivion (warthunder)

I would put them on…but at the same time no loss, if they arent added…Truth is, I suspect they would barely be noticed…one may even notice the performance loss over the guns themselves lol (joke…or am I?)

I meant about 5 BR.

Not really an equipment problem, Soviet veterans stack BR2 and BR3 and in turn Axis veterans stack BR5.
Though adding new interesting content to Soviet BR5 and Axis BR3 would surely help attract players.

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from what I’m reading only Bf 109 F-4/R6 had a 2 15mm cannons and it was only used on the Eastern front. So it wouldnt be realistic to have 15mm cannons on the Bf 109 F-4 Trop

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The Ki-100 needs to be stronger to compensate Japan’s lack of a decent Attacker at BRIII and keep it competitive against allied P-51D and P-38 that it will have to face down on its own.

I believe the BF-109 F4 is this weak because the Soviet “equivalent” Yak-3 and La-5 both only have a very poor or no payload as well. That said I think all of those should be adjusted.

Blame the idiots that choose to go into BRIV with their pre merge T-34-85 this IS the reason.

Such an annoying problem and one i use to excuse me leaving any soviet game i want if i can profile them correctly… its not hard.

If you spawn into BV soviet game and 3+ teammates spawn in sniper squad or that god damn tank you have lost… or now have to carry twice as hard.