Stuh 42 would be better in my opinion. It even exists in editor
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This should only be considered for BRIV, it’s too strong for BRIII and essentially immune to much of what people can use in BRII. Also comparing it to other BRIII Tanks it’s a bit too strong, specifically compared to the Sig 15cm which apparently is fit for BRIII
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Release BR 3.5 already
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in a game where soviets has kv-2 and capable of using against br-2 tanks. Germany %100 deserves its brummbar, but I prefer without MG34s to balance it, if its possible ofc
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everyone here conviniently forgetting the 20mm weakspot on the front
No. And the KV-2 is no excuse. This tank is literally invulnerable to most Allied tanks. At the same time, any German tank is capable of penetrating the KV-2.
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Doesn’t matter much since allies loves circling their planes in every match, and I am pretty sure any explosive pack under it would be enough to blow that thing
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Well, then you’re asking for Tiger 2 on BR2.
Every time a Axis player talks about balance, he wants balance for others, not for himself.
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everything you just said was horsecrap
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Not quite, I recall from my time playing this in WT, it suffers the same issues as the uparmoured Porsche Command Tiger, the angled corners on the sides, great and all only directly head on, but if your at any angle to the enemy tank, it becomes an normalisation nightmare for the Brumbar, not to mention the other weakspots on the front of the tank.
Also it suffers a bit like the KV-2 by the fact the gun barrel is so easy to hit, you can very quickly and easily disable it.
So I think if the KV-2 can sit at BR3, so can the Brumbar, however I stand by the fact if it were to be added, it, the KV-1, KV-2, Chi-to, Cast hull 76 shermans, M18 and etc should move to a BR(3.5).
Also if it were added, something like the earlier Su-85 should be added for BR3 imo.
by ‘big’ weak points do you mean the mg port and drivers sight because i dont consider big to be barley bigger than its own shells.
Just aim to weakspots. Just like you can frontally flank KV2 and take it out with AT rifle 
Yea about that
That it litterally the T-28 shell.
So if KV is fine with “just aim for the front plate” then this one is no diffrent exept this one cant even angle it to remove that weakspot.
But well the allied/soviet playerbase is allergic to having to aim so even that will be to much of an ask for them.
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The idea is good, but it would be nice to offer something other than German vehicles; I don’t know, there are for example Japanese, Italian, Hungarian, or Allied vehicles.
I suppose, Im still thinking with a WT brain when it comes to tankfighting, pixel hunting is drilled into me, even more so here.
But also see the point I made here about the angled frontal armour on each side of it, since it would be the version of the Brummbar we have in WT and not the version with a flat frontal plate.
Those angled corner plates are a death trap and basically act as one big weakspot.
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Don’t forget that his vehicle body is still fragile, just like the original tank. Although it can’t be penetrated from the front, it can still be destroyed by shooting at the vehicle body. The weight setting of WT is also 4.3. When he is in the next area, he will also encounter ordinary KVs, T34s, and Shermans. As long as he aims at the vehicle body, it won’t be particularly difficult to destroy it.
I feel that this gives me the impression that he is extremely deceptive. Many people, upon first sight, will try to attack his upper body. But they often overlook the lower part. The grizzly bear is like a knight with heavy plate armor only on his upper body. It’s because his lower body is vulnerable that its weakness is overlooked due to the proximity of the upper body. We also need to consider his weakness of having no turret. So BR3 is very suitable. I’m confident that when he comes out, he will definitely reverse Germany’s disadvantage in this weight class of armored vehicles.
Maybe not overlooked
In maps like berlin street is filled with obstacles and rubble, you basicly can only shoot the turret
To play this tank you just need a pile of something in front off you and you can have much more firepower than KV-2, it reload faster (17s/24s) and have more tnt(8.6kg/5.8kg) while remain relatively safe.
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the same argument could be made about the Jumbo, AC 1, SU-85M, Ho-Ri ect.
Brummbär will logically get the same BR as the most comparable vehicle: KV-2.