Germany also needs a large-caliber howitzer comparable to the KV-2, and the best option is the Brummbär.
Brummbär Späte Ausführung is the best variant
Characteristics
•Armor Casemate : 100mm at 12° on the front,50mm on the sides And 30mm at the back
•Chassis armor: 80mm At 10° front,30mm on the sides and 20mm on the back
•Main armament: A 150mm StuH 43 L/12 howitzer With 38 Projectiles
•Secondary Armament: 2 MG34/42 Defensive Machine Guns
That BR must be?
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Id love to see the Brumbar, would make a good premium I think.
However Im conflicted on BR, its a real BR3.5 imo, since frontally its largely immune to BR2 weapons, but on the sides is extremely vulnerable. I suppose it does have a few big weakspots on the front too which should account for it being a BR3?
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Who voted for BR3? That thing has 100mm of armor.
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I feel like adding the KV-2 was a mistake, the last thing we need is even more large calibre HE throwers. That open top 15cm thing is already painful enough to deal with and that thing barely has any armour.
Stuh 42 would be better in my opinion. It even exists in editor
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This should only be considered for BRIV, it’s too strong for BRIII and essentially immune to much of what people can use in BRII. Also comparing it to other BRIII Tanks it’s a bit too strong, specifically compared to the Sig 15cm which apparently is fit for BRIII
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in a game where soviets has kv-2 and capable of using against br-2 tanks. Germany %100 deserves its brummbar, but I prefer without MG34s to balance it, if its possible ofc
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everyone here conviniently forgetting the 20mm weakspot on the front
No. And the KV-2 is no excuse. This tank is literally invulnerable to most Allied tanks. At the same time, any German tank is capable of penetrating the KV-2.
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Doesn’t matter much since allies loves circling their planes in every match, and I am pretty sure any explosive pack under it would be enough to blow that thing
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Well, then you’re asking for Tiger 2 on BR2.
Every time a Axis player talks about balance, he wants balance for others, not for himself.
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everything you just said was horsecrap
Not quite, I recall from my time playing this in WT, it suffers the same issues as the uparmoured Porsche Command Tiger, the angled corners on the sides, great and all only directly head on, but if your at any angle to the enemy tank, it becomes an normalisation nightmare for the Brumbar, not to mention the other weakspots on the front of the tank.
Also it suffers a bit like the KV-2 by the fact the gun barrel is so easy to hit, you can very quickly and easily disable it.
So I think if the KV-2 can sit at BR3, so can the Brumbar, however I stand by the fact if it were to be added, it, the KV-1, KV-2, Chi-to, Cast hull 76 shermans, M18 and etc should move to a BR(3.5).
Also if it were added, something like the earlier Su-85 should be added for BR3 imo.
by ‘big’ weak points do you mean the mg port and drivers sight because i dont consider big to be barley bigger than its own shells.
Just aim to weakspots. Just like you can frontally flank KV2 and take it out with AT rifle 
Yea about that
That it litterally the T-28 shell.
So if KV is fine with “just aim for the front plate” then this one is no diffrent exept this one cant even angle it to remove that weakspot.
But well the allied/soviet playerbase is allergic to having to aim so even that will be to much of an ask for them.
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The idea is good, but it would be nice to offer something other than German vehicles; I don’t know, there are for example Japanese, Italian, Hungarian, or Allied vehicles.
