Berlin Inbalence

It seems like the Soviets are just superior in every way to the German’s 90% of the matches are easy victory’s for the Soviets, it seems that they just have everything better, better Bolt action, Tanks and SMG’s, maybe give the germans a Panther as their first tank and make the STG 44 as an early unlock in the Campaign,
-for tanks they’d start with the Panther D then the end tank would be a Tiger P or Panther G, like it is now
-better locations for Capture points, most of the zones are just in the plain open, that are easy targets for artillery and CAS
-a Better stock Bolt action, the MP40 for the SMG class, not the terrible MP 3008 and as a late upgrade the STG44

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No need for any of that, at least not at this moment.
Berlin is still in CBT, and all balance factors are simply flawed due to lack of players (mostly on the German side). Many players simply prefer to grind their way through Normandy or Moscow instead of being cannon fodder for those who paid for Berlin CBT access. And if someone even wants to play Berlin then he is stucked with only base squads, two det packs, no engineers etc.
Something similar happend during CBT last year, when Russians were loosing most of the battles due to the lack of players. I see a Tester tag by your nick - do you remember how did the “fix” with buffing all Russian weapons play out?

Let’s get back to this discussion after that campaign will be realeased to everyone and proper testing will be done, instead of that cashgrab.

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And then as soon as Normandy was added the tables turned without other changes.

It’s always been a playerbase problem and not a game balance problem.

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How about adding “Win battle” button? Seems to be the only way to fix your problems.

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VG2 should have a 10 round magazine whenever the devs get around to giving it an accurate gun model. (it did, after all, use Gewehr 43 magazines) Which will deal with the stock bolt action issue.

Capture points in and of themselves are somewhat okay, but some need work / tweaking, especially to their periphery of the map design, along with the inclusion of some more hard cover instead of so much / nearly only destructible cover.

The MP 3008 needs tweaking for balance but it’s not so horrible to the extent it’s irredeemable, even if I prefer the MP40, I’ll take a fully upgraded MP3008 over a non-fully-upgraded MP40. Reduce the vertical recoil to where it’s at when fully upgraded right now and it’d be a great starter SMG.

I really don’t know why we get the FG42 before the STG44. On either Berlin or Normandy.

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Tested my first battle in Berlin yesterday. I found that balanced, won 2 battles with the Germans (with the beginner squads).
I don’t think the beginner weapons are bad.
(And the Russian team was guaranteed not only bots. :slight_smile: )

My experience is really a case of where the German teams can do well, but soviet teams can stomp hard if they have a lot of assaulters or good tankers, or if they have radio operators or attacker planes clear objective points from cover with even a single barrage / bomb drop. If soviets don’t bring a lot of assaulter and tank squads, or have exceptionally poor performance with such, and don’t clear the objective of cover, Germans can easily win so long as they’re not braindead.

But again, that requires the soviets lack radio operators, attacker pilots, competent tankers, and any competent assaulters.

If they have three to four of the above, German teams tend to melt quite often.

Also, if some soviet players know their way around the map, they can pull off extremely unexpected flanks (death from above via rooftops) and wipe defenders on a lot of points completely from a vantage point the defenders can’t reach. (or reach as easily)

Which is why, in my opinion, things should be adjusted so defenders have easier rooftop access on points where you can look into it by adjacent rooftops, prebuilt AA to deal with planes (which is an every campaign thing not just a Berlin thing), and some more hard cover that won’t be wiped out by barrages on defensive points. And the starter weapons tweaked. Namely the Panzer IVJ being replaced by a Panzer IVH on the low end or Panther D on the high end, the VG2 being corrected to it’s historical model, and it’d be nice of the MP.3008 were improved as well.

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Literally the only reason why I switched my 3008 to 40’s is because of the dogshit sights

I don’t even bother playing Germans anymore. Sick of losing. I stomp with Soviets. won 8 games in arow once while barely trying.A

PPDZ is a joke. Got 30+ kills with one squad.

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Whereas I’ve now removed join every squad and am going full germans, I don’t mind so much if I lose, I like the challenge and the feeling of accomplishment when I do win, even if I am frustrated at the state of balance.

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give top 3 players victory bonus win or lose. Problem solved. Shitters can be shitters and good players can play without feeling dragged down.

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