Before the update releases, change the Cromwell 1's AP shells to APCBC

With the upcoming update, one of the tanks that is to be added is the Cromwell 1 on BR3, which is quite exciting. However, it was confirmed by Euthy in the replies that it will be using the AP shell, but is liable to change based on feedback, which is what this post aims to do.

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The AP shell, the Shot Mk.5, is the same one used by the Crusader with 101 millimeters of penetration, and while it works well enough against BR2 and 3 tanks, it will be a problem for the Cromwell against downtiered German BR4 tanks. I suggest that instead of this shell, it will receive the Shot Mk.9 APCBC shell. This will improve the penetration of the cannon from 101mms to 122mms, which will make it much more capable against more armored tanks it could face. This would have a fair bit more penetration than the 75mm M3’s APCBC, which only penetrates 104mms, but it does lack any filler. So combined with the fact that the armor and HE shell is a bit weaker than that of the Shermans, I think this would be a logical and balanced buff to the Cromwell to make it a viable tank in BR3.

For reference, the stats of the shells, taken from the WT wiki:
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Should the Cromwell’s predicted AP shells be replaced with APCBC?
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Either that, or moving it to BR2 would be logical

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Disagree but only cuz I would rather them give it the m86 from the American 57mm. More post pen dmg and slightly better at range

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If it can use it okay - but this shell isnt listed in Warthunder wiki … so maybe they aren’t compatible for the tank version of the gun.

The Brits did not use HE filler in their AP ammunition, this is not a American tank.

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Wow, its rare to see everyone agree on something.

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Yes. I specifically said it’s from the American 57mm if u were paying attention. The American 57mm field gun in game already uses 6 pounder ammunition so there’s precedent for this

American 57mm and 6 pounder are interchangeable. American 57mm field gun uses 6 pounder ammunition in game.

Yeah, I agree. The current Cromwell Mk. I at BR 3 makes little sense.
The Churchill at BR 3 at least has usable hull armor and the 6-pounder Mk.V that can penetrate the Panther’s front.
The Cromwell Mk. I has neither. Its 6-pounder Mk.II can barely penetrate the Panther’s front armor.
It’s just a bigger Crusader and struggles even against Panzer IVs in BR 3 battles.
It’s the most useless new vehicle in this update.

Then make a post about this - because if you are right this would absolutely be the best solution without a doubt.

Unfortunately I’m pretty busy today. Was hoping someone else would make a post about it by now

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Because it would be functionally useless at Br III without an APCBC shell there will still no reason to use it over the Sherman II and M4A1 at that tier.

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British made, quicker reload, more pen, better mobility, better steering, better mg, less visible

I will concede this the Cromwell got neutral steer.

I agree after all is not APHE so it’s fine btw this is the second perfect suggestion i see

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it’s because solid shot sux and is universally hated.

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Fun fact


Exploitable design flaws

The sponson plating over the track well is only 2.25mm of structural steel.

What do you mean? The game has overlapping armor.

Well its unrealistically weak, so either the devs fix solid AP, or they balance accordingly.

Trust me it works you should still use AP if you have it you can kinda do it in war thunder too.