Be nicer to people making suggestions

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I have been a long-time player on Enlisted, like many of us. We all care about the game, it’s future and ongoing issues. There have been hundreds of posts regarding the latter, and I am always so fascinated by the close attention given by members of the community. Especially interesting is the suggestions surrounding weaponry and vehicles, and the level of research which goes into discovering new possible unlocks for TTS never ceases to amaze me. This is also equally true of people criticising game mechanics, and I don’t need to reference the Soviet Body Armour to know that people get heated and passionate about this issue, and many others.

However, while I have been playing Enlisted for a long time, I have only been on the forum for a comparatively shorter time. Unfortunately, I have noticed that on some suggestions and posts, the criticism given to ideas verge on being downright rude.

Look at the above - if you go to this post, you will see that this community member left a reply which does not help anyone. You could make any point, in a constructive way which does not involve insult.

Look here as well, for a mere suggestion that an event vehicle should be granted to regular players, which is a fairly average and regular suggestion they are called a “commie” - with little to no context why.

Then, when I raise an issue as to their conduct, they always counter by stating that I have not played the game for long enough. I see why this might be an issue, as a less-experienced player might not have a grasp on the game. However, the Enlisted Community should welcome new players, and the very least we should do is welcome them. By saying their opinion is invalid because they have not played for long enough discourages long-term playability.

In previous posts, I argued for a war mode. Similarly, it was met with the idea that because it would never be listened to, it was invalid. How could this ever be further from the truth. Ideas start small, and they snowball into something big.

Likewise, in the same post, because someone made a similar point somewhere in the ether means I cannot make a similar point? Two people can be right at once, and any new proponent of old ideas just spurs on the hopeful eventual adoption of said idea.

So comrades, should we continue to be mean to people making suggestions?
  • Screw people making suggestions - let them suffer!
  • Let’s engage with ideas constructively!
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If there could ever be a finer example of toxic behaviour, here you have it folks. Read the full post, and appreciate for once that your behaviour is not acceptable - surely, you can see that you are able to make a very valid point, which you are entitled to in a better way.

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I mean given that we have a weekly suggestion based on “Subjective bias” rather than what the game objectively really needs balance-wise, I’d say it is to be expected that people will eventually tire out and start speaking their mind openly thus also getting rude.

The suggestion you linked to with the Flamethrowers is a good example. Who in their right mind would allow BR I newbies to be exposed to Flamethrowers. And reasoning to do so? Flamethrowers feel weak in full-auto META? So you want to put it up against bolt user beginners. See, no logic or care for the ecosystem, just subjective “Me, me and my playstyle/preferred weapon”.

Secondly in the 3rd link, you said to turn of Crossplay to a PC player. Now I don’t know what stuff I have to smoke to manifest the “Turn off crossplay” button, but I don’t see it in my menu and have not seen it ever since I’ve started playing.

As for the Flak or War mode. I don’t have much to say and can’t really care. SPAA is not interesting to me and War mode would require the game to nurture and support community cohesion, which is not being done in the slightest. Factions are slowly losing their uniqueness and as such any Faction loyalty is purely based on if the faction is strong/viable in the current META or not.

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yeah it’s a scrub on talkin nonsense. and this dude krieger on his high horse acting like some white knight… just sigh… talking shit and expecting no one to put it down… like welcome to the forums

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I acknowledge the point that people are frustarted. We all play exactly the same game and we all experience the same frustrations. However, this does not grant a license to express this on a fellow member of the community. We are strive for the same thing - bettering the game and having a better experience, and having people who post toxicly erodes the overall case to do so.

Yea, you did not read the post on this one. He argued to have them decreased by 1 BR, not to BR1. Sorry that was not communicated more clearly. Also, the point on this was not about the content, I am happpy to keep flamethrowers as they are. What I was discontent with was the fact of how he was disagreed with. Every person has a right to an opinion, but there is also an equally fair way to communicate with other people.

Maybe this is only a PS5 option - Just assumed it was on PC as well. My mistake - thought it was a feature across all platforms.

And you know what - that is totally fine! Thank you for communicating your ideas in a friendly way, and it allows me to go away and reflect on them in a productive manner!

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He argued to lower the BR III flamethrower to BR II, meaning it would encounter BR I. Case closed.
I read through it, so don’t be quick to assume, perhaps you ought to read in between the lines.

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are you a bot or what? really weird behaviour

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You are free to disagree with anyone’s opinion, but we all exist in a community and you can voice an opinion in disagreement productively - read the whole post my man

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Only if you would get up tiered, which at BR1 is not always the case, but again, it forms a wider issue with the BR system, not the actual content of the post.

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Try disagreeing with a few controversial topics and see what happens, lol.

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That’s exactly my point, and I appreciate your comment. We should be able to disagree without wanting to kill each other

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It is the case for usually around 50+/-% of matches, I am sorry to say. A BR II is more likely to play against BR I than BR III.

As for the BR system, it is an issue that has been here for a long while. This type of suggestion would only end up making it even worse. It also hints to the author of said suggestion having no regard or no objective awareness of how the game’s ecosystem works.

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And like I said, I am happy for this issue to be debated and in a constructive way. What I did not like, and continue to not like is people like this gentleman who continues to comment and get his comments taken down, and how they do so. We can have a friendly disagreement over a literal game without having personal insults thrown around. Look at us now - we are doing it chief

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And if all suggestions were kind I would love to but I am tired of pleas make my faction op

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Exactly my point. ANd s I come across this shit suggestion it ahs to be put down. for the games sake

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How many times have you answered questions from beginners?
Have you done it 1000 times, 10,000 times, or even more?
Please do it yourself first, and then evaluate others.
If you enjoy abusing the freedom of speech? Then I pose a question: A large number of outstanding authors have been creating a vast amount of content since 2021, which remains valid to this day (excluding those parts that have become invalid due to version updates)
Why don’t you go watch a movie or read a book?
Why do you ignorant people still ask questions and insist on getting special treatment from others for such trivial matters?
No one would bother to teach tens of thousands of ignorant people what the letter ‘a’ is.
You had already learned it before going to school. The teacher was just reinforcing it for you again, not changing it from 0 to 1.
The parents who taught you the letter A would never create 9,999 children and then teach them.
Therefore, if you want to grow and learn, you should study hard on your own. Learning materials are available everywhere; there are tutorials in various mainstream languages from all over the world.
They are all very easy to find and most of them are free.
But you didn’t seek it out, didn’t learn it, nor did you share the correct and valuable information with others.
Ultimately, you refuse to contribute anything of value. You are merely complaining.

PS: If you ask me another question again:
State the above question to me.
Then, you will be hopeless. You won’t even look up my personal information to understand me. But I freely disclose my information and a large amount of valuable content about this game, providing free services for quite a few players.
Even among them, many are not my fans and do not belong to my language community. They haven’t even thanked me.

Constructive content is something that everyone will be glad to receive.
But the point you raised?
Most of these are the demands, requests, instructions and orders that primitive people are making to modern people.
Then, modern people are required to convey in a single sentence what quantum mechanics is or how to traverse a wormhole to the primitive people.

This is not a constructive viewpoint or valuable comments from other perspectives; it’s more like random nonsense.
You should be grateful that your English proficiency is at least good enough to be understood by others.

PS：There are too many kinds of viewpoints in the community: ignorant, bad, drug-addicted, delusional, and deliberately opposing and questioning.
Then it’s really bad.
And I didn’t stop you from complaining, but please make sure your complaints are well-grounded, constructive and valuable.
Of course, you can also take a look at how I complained on the forum.

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Not any more for me - it doesn’t care about me so wtf should I care about it.

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This is not how this forum works - no one is putting anyone down, we are all free to share our opinions.

Sure its kinda “naive” of him to believe he has the right to be respected by others - in the end this is the internet, a world naturally without direct consequences which naturally results in people saying what ever the heck they want.

Yes, the mods obviously moderate extremes, but fundamentally the internet is a place where anonymous stangers can spit poison at each other without anyone getting physically hurt.

Here is the thing tho - even though you think you can be a rude burden to others, you effectively actually cant, because when you act like monkey, people will ultimately treat you like a monkey.

This forum builds on the idea of people sharing ideas and opinions, many many of us had opinions that have changed over the years because of good insight of other forum members, we here are actually discussing the state of the game, and being super rude simply destroys the very concept of this forum.

Just because you disagree with his ideas, doesn’t mean he’s all bad. This mentality leads nowhere.