Battle of Kursk event [Ferdinand/SU-152]

I think we can all agree that Ferdinand introduction into tech tree is controversial, at BR4 it will be imprevious to every allied cannon frontally, at BR5 it is almost useless because of King Tiger.

What am I proposing:
Do not introduce Ferdinand this patch, replace it with a Sturmhaubitze 42 (BR3) directly ported from War Thunder.
Leave Ferdinand for a later event, dedicated to battle of Kursk

Rewards:
1541st Heavy Self Propelled Regiment of the USSR - SU-152 - Major (at the moment of the battle) Sankovsky


A.F. Sankovsky served in the Red Army from 1929. He earned multiple decorations for bravery and effective command, including during the Kursk battles in 1943, where his regiment destroyed significant enemy forces. For his leadership, he received high Soviet awards such as the Order of the Red Banner. His unit later fought as part of 25th tank corps

654 Schwere Panzerjäger Abteilung - Ferdinand - Leutnant (at the moment of the battle) Hermann Feldheim


Henning’s kampfgruppe stands in the path of the soviet counterattack. Before the day is over the kampfgruppe has decisively smashed the attack, destroying 22 Soviet tanks, some at more than 2,500 meters. Henning was personally responsible for 10 of the kills, while Leutnant Hermann Feldheim tallied 11 more. Both were vehicle commanders in one of Hitler’s new wonder weapons at Kursk, the heavy tank destroyer (Jagdpanzer) Ferdinand. Later the unit was transferred to Jagdpanthers and deployed in Normandy, participated in battle of the Bulge and Operation bluecoat
Die schwere Panzerjäger-Abteilung 654 der Wehrmacht

Why i believe this is a necessary change:
Both Ferdinand and SU152 are undoubtedly legendary vehicles in the context of WW2, however i do not feel like either of them belongs to tech tree completely, nevertheless i think this is a missed opportunity to make an event that will satisfy most vehicle enthusiasts without major arguments about the balance. So please, instead of giving us arguments about the balance that divide the community, give us real ww2 history and flavor.
Sorry for the low effort but i think this is a no brainer suggestion.

Question: why not 653 Schwere Panzerjäger Abteilung?
Because it’s for Jagdtiger
Question: why Ferdinand doesn’t belong to TT?
It’s extremely strong at BR4 and weak at BR5
Question: why SU-152 doesn’t belong to TT?
It’s essentially a KV-2 without a turret (big yikes in game), but with a more powerful gun including APHE shells.
Question: What would replacing the Ferdinand with the Sturmhaubitze achieve right now?
It would give the German side a fairly well-armored self-propelled gun — a sort of ersatz KV-2 with a powerful high-explosive gun and HEAT shells with 115 mm of penetration, making it even easier to fight KV-1s and T-34s, oddly enough. I don’t think anyone would be upset if, instead of the useless at BR5 Ferdinand, the Germans received a truly useful assault howitzer — an analogue of the KV-2 and the M4 105, but without an open fighting compartment.

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1./s.Pz.Jg.Abt. 654 Ferdinand 511 (Commander: Leutnant Hermann Feldheim) returns from action passing a disabled Panzer IV from Panzer-Regiment 35.

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Cool. I like this.

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Last time I checked this is already in the games files

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Too late, the Ferdy is already coming. My pronostic is that the Elefant will be released as a premium later on to be the appropriate paid upgrade for the Ferdinand.

However, I do want to see the ISU-152, or even the regular SU-152. I don’t know why they haven’t added it yet. It should’ve been part of the Battle of Berlin campaign years ago when that was a thing.

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I like the idea of the Stuh and Su-152 being added, in an event or the TT I don’t care. But I do think that the Ferdinand has a place once they make a BR6

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Stuh should be a TT honestly, it’s armored enough to present a threat to m4 and t34s (bar the 57) while having a poweful gun capable of fighting kv1 effectively using HEAT, and besides, germany needs a sorta kv2 analogue HE slinger, i don’t think anyone would be upset if br5 ferdy (a massive punching bag worse than KT-H in every way) gets replaced by an actual br3 useful tank

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Like I said, I wouldn’t mind it being TT. I’m just saying that the Ferdinand would have a place if BR5 got decompressed