Barbed wire, it is annoying. It is most annoying when your teammates sabotage you by placing the shit in the way, it’s annoying when your AI goes through instead of around. Can we fix this? I would like suggestions.
The only idea that comes to mind is disallowing building of barbed wire indoors (and kind of related, mines should only be outdoors as well)
Suggestions?
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I don’t care about indoors, but they shouldn’t allow to build it in middle of objective.
Often such placed barbed wire is helping more enemy team than yours.
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Explosive packs should destroy friendly barbed wire aswell.
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Yeah this is definitely an issue.
Maybe barbed wire doesnt affect friendly soldiers? That could help.
Affect means slow down and hurt.
Also maybe a limit on the number of barbed wires built at one time?
I don’t like this either. There’s quite high chance it would be broken af.
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People would instantly turn each CP into a barbed wire hedgehog, every window, every door, in the middle of the point, barbed wire all around. Currently, they at least need to use their singular braincell to think “I need to get to the point too”.
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Yeah, it’s annoying. But again, it’s part of the game. If we took everything out of the game that was annoying, we would have no game.
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Indeed, but when I lose a game because I cannot access my control point I’m defending, I’m not able to play the game. I can handle annoying, I don’t like not playing the game.
You can dismantle engineer builds easily with any soldier. It’s quicker to use an engineer, but any soldier can dismantle a build.
I think the key is “J”, if I remember rightly.
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Yes and no. Is it annoying getting shot? Of course. But that’s different to some noob who has spammed barbed wire across the entire room in front of a friendly rallypoint so you cant hurry to the objective and you and your AIs especially get severely wounded.
You can press J but that takes a while and is of course taking time away from fighting (its even more ‘fun’ when you’re stuck in ‘friendly’ barbed wire and getting shot at at the same time).
Frankly I cant think of many times barbed wire is actually used appropriately. To me barbed wire in Enlisted is the equivalent of new noob players in Roblox/Minecraft building giant representations of certain parts of the male body using blocks.
Its like actual players build rally points, ammo boxes, AT guns, AA guns and MG nests.
New/noob players just randomly put sandbags, barbed wire and Czech hedgehogs everywhere (and I do mean everywhere), in situations almost guaranteed to be more of a hindrance to their own team than the enemy.
For example I often build Czech hedgehogs in the middle of a bridge (i.e Pacific) to try and stop/slow enemy tanks. I have NEVER seen anyone else do this. Instead they will put them in friendly doorways or just in the middle of a room like some weird modern art sculpture that serves no purpose.
It should also be noted that in order for any of these buildables to be useful, defenders need time to actually defend.
I’ve covered this in other threads but defenders never have time to set up any defences before the enemy is overrunning them.
(having to run all the way back to the new objective, getting shot in the back or killed by advancing greyzone doesnt help either)
I do dismantle, but it takes time and often I’m getting shot at while trying to remove it. Because my AI can’t give covering fire of any value I am trying to keep myself alive at the same time I am removing barbed wire, trying to defuse a bomb or defend, and teammate may or may not place more barbed wire.
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Allow teammates to instantly dismantle barbed wire that’s been placed within the last 30 seconds, and allow engineers to cancel friendly barbed wire placement before it’s built. But only barbed wire.
If you see an engineer swinging a hammer at a door/window that they probably shouldn’t then you could pull your hammer out to check what it is. If it’s barbed wire you just cancel their building entirely. If you don’t have an engineer in your squad and friendly babed wire randomly appears before you, all… in your way and stuff, then you could just insta-dismantle the barbed wire to get through. You would use the same button/key as the regular dismantle, only it would work instantly if the barbed wire was recently placed.
Sounds a little dramatic. It’s literally just part of playing the game. Do you get less upset when you lose because the other team shoots you? Part of the game man. Get over it.
I do like the idea that it won’t hurt. My AI is so dumb they intentionally kill themselves on my teammates barbed wire. But I think it should still have the speed reduction.
Good for the first point.
However I am puzzled why you want to have a speed reduction for your own team?? Especially when barbed wire is spammed around the spawn or the objective you’re holding and it slows you from reacting to the enemy.
Don’t want to have people spam barbed wire everywhere. it’s gonna be unbalanced for attackers
You’re the reason I want a downvote button for this forum.
Careful what you wish for. 