Had an interesting thought about an anti tank soldier rework which in my opinion would give new players more of a fighting chance against vehicles at an earlier stage.
As we all know, anti tank rifles are very mediocre, bar a few. By BR 2 they pretty much become obsolete with the exception of picking off tank modules like tracks. I’m proposing that anti tank rifles take the form of a primary weapon for AT soldiers (optional of course) and leaving free the secondary slot open for launchers.
With this change I’m proposing than some AT weapons move down by 1 BR. In my opinion this would help new and existing players combat heavier tanks while being uptiered.
The BR changes to launchers are as follows:
Piat to BR 1 for US/UK
Sturmpistole to BR 1 for Germany/Italy
Panzerfaust 60 to BR 2 for Germany/Italy
Type 5 rocket launcher to BR 1 for Japan
I have chosen Germany to receive their Panzerfaust 60 at BR 2 as it is their manufactured weapon and the USSR have the lend lease M1 Bazooka at BR 2. Also to help deal with BR 3 Soviet heavy tanks. You may notice that the USSR are absent with a BR 1 launcher, I have done this due to the PTRS being very good and I have no idea of a substitute for a Soviet BR 1 launcher. So I’m open to ideas.
Thanks for listening to this long post and I look forward to hearing your thoughts and having an interesting discussion.
- Yes, rework AT soldiers and lower some AT launchers
- No, keep them how they are now (explain why you disagree)
Now that’s completely insane idea. GrB is more than enough for BR2.
BR2 gear should be balanced with regard to BR2 context, not BR3. It doesn’t matter whether it’s a personal weapon, a vehicle, or an anti-tank weapon.
You are always meant to underperform when facing higher BR. That’s how BR balance works.
If you don’t like it, you should be pushing for ±0 MM. Not for insane powercreep that’s specifically targeting only one aspect of the game
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Last time i checked, the GRB was complete garbage against things like the KV and T34. Who says you have to underperform against an uptier? Smoothing out the BRs is the best method.
My proposal has nothing to do with power creep, its more to fill out BR 1 as it is empty.
Because that’s literally case in every other scenario.
BR2 smg is underperforming against BR3 smg
BR2 rifle is underperforming against BR3 rifle.
And so and so on.
BR2 AT weapons simply shouldn’t be dominating BR3 tanks.
It’s so ridiculous that I even need to be explaining this.
All you want is to destroy tanks of higher BRs with no effort at all. And I find that extremely lame.
In that case, you just don’t know how to use it. Its flat pen is higher than the armor of these tanks.
With the tier system we have nothing should be drastically underperforming. Hence why select fire rifles need a nerf to bring them in line with BR 4 rifles.
I fail to see why a launcher in BR 2 being able to compete with a heavy tank is such an issue. You literally know how much damage a KV and Sherman 105 can do in an up tier. So why deny it? Only thing lame is your attitude and complete disregard for facts. So you can take your passive aggressiveness out of my thread please.
You can already compete with current BR2 AT weapons against BR3 tanks.
Your proposal is aimed at completely dominating them with no effort at all. That’s where I see the problem. And I think it’s pretty much obvious to everyone.
And don’t make me repeat myself over and over again.
Yeah the sturmpistole and GRB are totally competing with BR 3 tanks 
what planet are you living on? Obvious to everyone? Well I’m interested to see other people’s opinions if they aren’t going to be as obnoxious and hyper fixated as you.
Good, you don’t have to repeat yourself, because Ive already asked you politely to take your salt and leave.
If this were to happen, then a AT soldier could take out a tanks tracks and sneak up to the side and destroy it. 10x worse for tank destroyers
A viable strategy for dealing with TDs, except hardly anyone uses them
AT is already super effective across the board, there’s no reason to lower AT launchers unless you want more people to sit in the greyzone
I find AT rifles to be very inconsistent and random. Especially the Boys and the 2 German ones. There’s many times that I’ve been aiming at modules/ammunition racks and they have failed. Soviets and Japanese on the other hand I’ve had a little bit more success with their semi automatic AT but not by much.
Sturmpistole and GrB under perform too hence why i suggested the Sturmpistole be moved to BR 1. Piat because of the projectile arc and type 5 because the lack of sights.
People already sit in the grey zone regardless, wouldn’t moving the weaker launchers down help counter that?
The GrB does not underperform, it deals with BR3 tanks just fine once you learn how to land shots with it. Sturmpistol is all about flanking, unless it’s a KV in which case you curl into a ball and cry.
PIAT just needs a buff to its pen since I’ve heard 80mm is on the lower end of what it’s capable of, especially since they buffed the M1.
Type 4 has sights, the Type 5 has 100mm of pen. I remember using it in BR5 before the Ofenrohr and it’s just amazing for a BR2 launcher.
They’re in BR2 for a reason, you’re not supposed to be able to just mindlessly throw warheads at a BR3 tank till it blows up until you get the BR3 launchers.
Also the Panzerfaust 60 being in BR2 is one of the ideas of all time.
The sights on the GrB are god awful, I’d still push for the sturmpistole to be moved to BR 1.
Why does the piat need a buff when it can just be moved to BR 1? That way it’s not competing against the M1.
Why can a BR 3 vehicle mindlessly sling HE at BR 2 players but an AT soldier can’t use limited Ammo for a launcher to combat them? Panzerfaust at BR 2 for Germany alone when it faces some of the most disgusting vehicles in the game honestly isn’t as crazy as you and others make it sound. Same as the Japanese pipe launcher without sights, forgive me, if I said type 4, I meant type 5.
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BR3 tanks can’t mindlessly sling HE with impunity, the GrB front pens, the PIAT front pens, the Type 5 front pens. Moving them to BR1 is unnecessary would only serve to make AT essentially mindless.
Theres so many ways to destroy tanks that if you can’t do it with low tier AT launchers then you’ve still got plenty of options.
Tier 2 rooms require the Panzerfaust 30 instead of the Panzerfaust 60 because their charge sizes and damage outputs are different.
Still going to have to disagree with you. All 3 you just mentioned have either awful sights/no sights and very large arcs when firing. Piat, Sturmpistole and GrB all have a large arc so they still require calculation while aiming or watching fall of shot which wastes the limited ammo you have.
A KV1 and 105 Sherman can literally just sit and mindlessly sling HE while essentially being untouchable especially at a distance. Yes there are alternative ways to destroy tanks but those ways require being up close or using a vehicle that a ftp player may not have access to or unlocked yet.
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