AP-4C (F4U-1C) back to BRIV

Extremely overrated.

A power creep mistake from the very beginning. This plane is the exception, not average standard around which everything else should be balanced.

Not only Japan has much worse ground attacker and much worse tanks its like to compare all BR IV tanks to Panther or IS-1. Simply Japan had good fighters its the main selling point of the faction since all its other vehicles suck. Literally without Ki-100 which other vehicle is worth playing?

Oh, but it is when paired on a fast fighter with 4x 20mm while everyone else gets something obviously much less than that.

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There are some good vehicles like Ki-84 exists but the issue with Japan is that they lacks the number of squads that could use them which means that you can’t really cycle vehicles like other factions and being restricted to use only one of them rather than all of them at once, same goes for tank squads as well.

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No im not talking about BR IV and V the vehicles under BR IV are just bad the Ki 100 is the only good vehicle in BR III while the other factions have a lot and then yes there is the problem of squads thats why if they move Ki 61 to BR III will fix the problem with squads a bit and the problem of vehicles since you will have 2 good fighters in BR III like US and USSR.

Well, sure why not. Ki-61 could turns pretty well but at the same time the bomb loadout isn’t that amazing being only 2x 100kg bombs so i think it would be fair on BR 3.

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Not only there is aircrafts that underperform and overperform then in war thunder and in war thunder Ki- 100 is worse then Ki-61 here Ki 100 is better then Ki 61 so I dont know why they are keeping it in BR IV while Japan has only one option for BR III fighter. Japan is only playable and fun at BR IV and V and still lack proper payloads on their ground attackers.

And those are Attackers with worse flight stats and significantly larger size.

Yes many ground attackers also need BR change. Without the US para ground attackers with 7 members with SMGs since they are literally paratrooper planes with bombs. A20 is absolute dog trash plane at BR IV. IL-10 also at BR V is strange should be moved down to BR IV.

i’m really starting to thing you have never flown this plane if you attribute “sustainable turns” to it.

Which to note i haven’t had it in my lineup but twice since the meteor came out but the times i did use it i remember being underwhelmed by how it flew… especially with its ability to keep energy in turns even when doing proper methods to keep it.

im starting to think you might have a slight skill issue

Hvar≠wfr

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Everything depends stupidly on quantity :pinching_hand::pinching_hand::pinching_hand:

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Because the flaps on AP-4C is very strong, even when you are in dive and in very high speed you can chuck flaps to ‘landing’ right away and just start turning without worry of breaking your flaps. It can also maintain the turn rate relatively well even at very low speed like below 200 TAS even when the flaps fully deployed which is ‘landing’ for AP-4C, that’s why i said it has a ‘good sustainable turn’. This is good enough to dog fight other fighters. Now ofc, it isn’t Spitfire and it won’t be winning any fights against japanese fighter aircrafts but it is good enough to beat the german ones, which is good enough for a fighter with 8x HVAR and 4x 20mm cannons.

Like on many other aircrafts and some have even airbrake. Fiat G 55 can use flaps all the time. P 47 also and La 7 ,I 185 and all the jets and they have airbrake normally AP-4C is supposed to have airbrake when it deploy its flaps but it doesn’t work in Enlisted. So there is many aircrafts with unique mechanics and some even bugged aircrafts. Ki 87, J2M3 also has strong flaps literally a lot of aircrafts. The unique thing about AP-4C is that when it deploy its flaps its supposed to have airbrake also when it uses its flaps but it doesn’t work in Enlisted.

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Many aircrafts can outturn you when they deploy their flaps not to mention even BF can but there you must be careful and not use your flaps for too long same way with the Spitfire now you must be careful not to brake your wings so yeah AP-4C flaps are not special since they dont have airbrake like they are supposed to have similar mechanic when deployed.

As much as I would like to see BR adjustments to MANY planes, I think this one is a little too strong for the current BR4 lineup. I would love to see the F4U-4 series planes in BR5, and maybe once that happens and other planes shift around this one could work in BR4.

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As do the players in the BF 109 they are apparently winning dogfights against… that is such an exaggeration.

In fact i’m willing to out this to the rest with my mediocre flight skills… 107 e7 vs Corsair… sure the weaponry is better but flight characteristics DEFINITELY not.

I guess it depends on what you can consider a dogfight. If it’s any engagement plane to plane I can see the 20mms doing good work when dropping down on people but in an actual fight instead of an ambush I don’t see the Corsair doing great.

a dogfight id consider a turn fight… what i say when im willing to challenge someone is this… head on and then turning into your maneuver

Yes though… the weaponry more than makes up for whatever downfall it may have.

As much as i would like to vote yes, it has to be a no for now. There are too many planes that need a br change. I’d say almost half the planes in the game need br adjustments or payload changes.