At this point everyone that has played the game for more than an hour know how bad double barrel shotguns currently are, and for no reason. Would you please buff them back. Honestly why where they nerfed in the first place?, They where pretty much a side grade to the starter bolt action rifles.
Another patch, and premium squads are still inferior than non premium ones.
No way to add more soldiers to a 4 man squad… Jesus christ.
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I dont think the Premium Infantry Squad of the Soviets is inferior…
Some of them just got even worse: R.I.P. LMG bundles.
Another thread saying the shotguns are bad damn there have been a lot of these would be really nice if the developer’s would revert the shotgun nerf that was completely unessercery. As i wouldn’t of ever considered the shotguns “overpowered” in anyway it was much more efficient to use the SMG or even the bolt action rifles. They were fun to use however now ever since the damage reduction they just seem pointless to use now.
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To be fair Normandy premium brownings were extremely good before (even underrated). I haven´t tested them post nerf patch tho.
Still not seeing these two things solved (shotguns and premium squads not reflecting regular squad composition, thus being down to 4 men) after such a long time and many complaints/suggestions is a bit frustrating.
Normandy Browning squads were way OP pre-patch. Basically a 4-man AR deathsquad with zero recoil.
Since unlocking the shotgun on Allies Normandy, I’ve had a few good runs with it in CQB. Should def. be able to reach out and touch at medium range though.
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9 soldiers that cant change weapons or have diferent soldier types like a non premium infantry squad that can have same 9 man composition, an engineer, a arty guy or what ever.
A premium squad locked to 4 star soldiers where a non premium one can go up to 5 and possible veteran stats latter.
A non premium squad that can have more, only costing time.
There is no pay to win, and we don’t want pay to win, I want to pay for a squad, and get exacly the same as a non premium squad soldier can have. Diferent skins or what ever. I m not happy with how premium squads are treated right now. You pay for less.
The only two reasons are extra squads avaiable to play and xp boosts. And both can be obsolete once a campaign is leveled up.
Yes, every premium squad right now it’s inferior to a non premium one once leveled up.
This serious needs to be revised. We are supporting the game and we are getting worst squads on the long run.
If we want a fair fighting comparison squad VS squad, premium squads need to have exacly the same treatment as non premium ones. No extra gains besides the xp boosts, but not as limited as they are right now.
I don’t want more perks
I don’t want more slots
I don’t want op weapons
I don’t want op vehicles
I don’t want OP stats
I don’t want 7 assaulters or 7 gunners
Right now, there is not a single reason to invest in premium squads.
Yes they are an extra squad. Yes the unique weapons are nice and as a person that collects everything in-game its always nice to own them. But they are far from balanced against non premium ones.
They need to be treated as non premium ones. And currently they are as inferior as they get, besides the xp boost that gets obsolete once a player full levels a campaign.
If you level a campaign and then decide to buy a premium squad, you only gonna get a limited 4 man squad.
No thx
All I fking want its the same upgrade tree as a non premium squad where 4 soldiers are stuck with the premium guns, but I can add a sniper, a engineer, etc
It’s this such a problem?!
I’ll this make the game p2w? Fk no.
Right now, you can pay 40 dollars/euros to have 4 engineers, when a non premium soldier can have up to 6 on a non premium squad with an extra trooper or bomber.
Call this fair, coz I won’t.
Or it’s only fair to talk about balance when it’s a non paying costumer complaining?
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The thing, that pretty much all 2 us non premium bar performed exacly the same. (German didn’t had no right MG to compare to the polish version)
We could still run 4 non premium bars with a engineer, a trooper and what ever left on a squad.
Virtuality the premium US bar was pretty much the same as the non premium one, on a worst 4 man squad.
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a nice addition would be for shotguns to be equippable for tankers. Getting started on Berlin I got a load of shotguns that could have been given to my tankers who were equipped only with a knife back then.
Maybe we misunderstanding but I think the near 60euros I paid for having the superior 336th Guard Division with the Soviets on Berlin, I consider that premium as well as absolutely going berserk with the PPD-40 DSZ making easily 20 kills with 2x71 clips.
That can APPEAR to be pay to win, until you realize that once you unlock enough campaign levels you can get for free a full sized squad with same or better SMGs (bar bayonets), 5 star soldiers, and more support soldiers. Which at that point makes that premium squad still fun but “obsolete” and a downgrade compared to the free one.
The partial p2w argument in that case stands only in regard to immediately accessing late game weaponry, which f2p players can still get, just later.
Unless you actually have the PPD-40 DSZ, you should never say there is anything better.
Because there basically isnt anything similar. This thing is a fucking monster. It also has bayonet attached.
Besides, I dont see much difference in having 1 Star Soldier without added perk and 5 star soldier with specialized perks. I still do my 150 kills no matter what.
the normal ppd upgraded its prety much the same, but you can have more soldiers on the squad.
i know, i have both.
Fair point, I don’t own that squad (yet), but what I said applies to BAR squads in Normandy which are indeed strong compared to a starter squad, but later get outperformed by upgraded free squads. I deem it reasonable to assume that it’s the same for Berlin SMG bundles.