AI needs a full remodelation

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enlisted biggest problem is it’s broken AI but i’m not suggesting putting just some kind of tape on literal holes.

I think AI needs a complete rework it needs to be Made from 0 once again since You Gaijin alredy tried to fix it countless times resulting into breaking it Even more like if it wasnt completly broken alredy

So tbh the Best solution as i mentioned is to beggin once again with that aspect, try to get some inspiration from other Game like Easy red 2 where AI is simple but competent enough.

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what do you mean?

ai are clearly superior and will take over the world:


… whenever they’ll manage to get around their obstacles.

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I was playing a custom match yesterday as one does and I was tired after doing the event for 2 and a half hours, so I just took things easy. Well, gave me plenty of time to observe the AI. They literally stand in front of obstacles, be as in sandbags, trucks, etc. and throw their grenades right at them. It’s even more hilarious when they have molotovs and light themselves on fire. They walk into your firing line, they walk in front of you just when YOU’RE about to throw a grenade and me using the instant ones with my Allies Assaulters and Machine Gunners…not good! They’re still able to see you through some bushes or see other AI accompanying you and detect you that way, they can’t aim, but at the same time kill you from the other side of the map with one headshot…so on and so on.

Edit: Played two regular matches too last night and they were filled with bots. If they encounter you up close, they bash your face in within a milisecond, if they encounter you at a reasonable distance, they for some reason go for their grenades if they have any.

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I get the point. But to be fair, those buildings are not in the vanilla version of that map (It’s Le Bre, right? Your map edit looks way cooler) And we know their pathfinding it’s based on that. I do like the inclusion of AI-controlled vehicles, so much that I wish they’d expand on that. So we could see maybe the AI driving an APC or maybe a random motorcycle. (Imagine the AI driving the premium Sdkfz. 251, the same way they can spawn in premium squads) Parking it somewhere or attacking the enemies. A bit like fighting against an AI in an RTS game, who’s constantly throwing everything at you.

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when it comes to Enlisted AI I was amazed by it only ONCE
It happened when I was dive bombing near the ground and got disconnected. After reconnecting I though that it would crash on the ground considering how near it was. But no! I found myself still in the plane and it was just reloading my ammo. That felt really good

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im not sure if planes actually have an AI

but that was impressive tbh

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I think everyone knows that AI needs rework but it will still probably never happen. Such rework would require tons of development resources and gajin has never been good with AI. Also improving enlisted gameplay has stopped being a priority long time ago. They just make low effort events and premiums to keep people playing and paying

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" to be fair ",

navmesh generation exists for a reason.

what’s the point of making our mods wight heavier because of navmesh generation if then the AI struggles with most of the time.

EDIT:
also happens with most vanilla maps .
stalingrand and berlin being egregious.

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I don’t know about total remodelling but tweaking, like not getting stuck on obstacles like boxes, fences etc, attacking tanks and following commands, running out of combat and camping outside a CP unless you go in first. Xxx

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I’ve been requesting and gone as far as trying to shame the Dev’s for putting out incredibly stupid bots like what is currently in the game. Me personally, I don’t care if any of my AI Bots ever kill anyone, I just want them to have more common sense then a retarded three year old stepchild. :rofl: I really don’t understand why the Dev’s left the bots with this much sheer stupidity unless their are either no one at Gaijin who has any bot programming skill, or they were made this way strictly to be cannon fodder. I am incline to think the cannon fodder is probably closer to the truth.

I am fine killing bots, but wouldn’t it at least make the game better if the bots were programmed to run when we run, instead of constantly lagging a hundred meters behind? They bots already mirror the player when we lay down, so why can’t they be programmed to sprint when we sprint? :thinking:

Can’t they be programmed to enter a building the same way the player enters the building? If I go through a window, why do all the damn bots have to run around the building and run through the main entrance, exactly where the enemy is waiting for them? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Can’t they be programmed to STAY in the exact same place ordered, instead of roaming around and wondering outside or up a set of stairs? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

This one might be harder for the Dev’s to accomplish, but can something be done to try and prevent them from CONSTANTLY running or crawling in front of the player when that player is trying to shoot at, or toss a grenade at the enemy? Make them invisible to our bullets, that way they are NOT BLOCKING our shots at the enemy thus getting not only the idiot bot killed, but the player who is behind it having all our bullets blocked?

Just basic common sense is all I seek, I don’t need a bunch of Rambo bots running around, although at times I meet bots on the battlefield that are exactly that. :joy:

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Whoever thought of AI tankers is actually braindead.

I like the modding possibilities AI tanks have but they are implemented quite poorly and in a very unpolished state just like eveything else in this game

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Just FYI, AI STILL shoots you through the bushes. I was standing there doing nothing for over a minute and well…

Luvs2spooge, you sure that’s not me you see there? Was it last friday around 1.30am GMT cos i did a quick skermish after a nite in town that may or may not have involved a few several double vodka n cokes and my eye to hand to doing anything in a straight line co-ordination may or may not have been deemed battle worthy​:innocent::innocent:

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