I think Br V
I think the (Ta 152 H-1) should most likely be a Event Squad.
The Axis didnt get any real Event squad for to long except the saboteur.
I think the Ta 152 C-1 with a 500-kg bomb could work as TT as well but it would be nice as Event or Event with squad as well !
Thank some axis players have a funny idea in brs, looks great 
voted yes on both
In the suggestion i did put link,s to my other Axis Aircraft Event squad idears!
The appearance of the Ta 152 in Enlisted is long overdue. The Ta 152 actually flew combat missions in WW2 and according to those who flew it in actual combat, the Ta 152 was the best piston engine fighter aircraft of WW2.
The Ta 152 however should NOT be an event or even a premium unit, it belongs in the German tech tree. Anything that ends up exclusively as a premium unit or an event unit is not available to new players, or even veteran players, that either do not have money to buy them, or that miss an event for one reason or another.
For example the British “Tempest” fighter aircraft is currently only available as a premium unit in Enlisted, but it is no longer for sale. The “Tempest” without a doubt was the best late-war British fighter aircraft, arguably the best late-war allied fighter aircraft. Currently however the “Tempest” is not available in Enlisted anymore, except to those that currently own the premium “Tempest” unit.
Additional variants of the Ta 152 with different armament could be added in Enlisted as event and/or premium units though, in addition to German tech tree variants. This has already been done with other aircraft in Enlisted that are available both in the tech tree and as event and premium units. For example the P-51 “Mustang”, Me 109 and Me 262 are available in the tech tree and as premium units.
As to the Ta 152 it certainly has the best victory to loss ratio of any fighter aircraft in WW2, if my memory serves me right it is 16 victories to 0 losses in combat. A few Ta 152 were lost in accidents during WW2, but not due to combat.
The data available on the internet is generally unreliable at best, Wikipedia is certainly not a reliable “source”, if one can call “Wikipedia” a “source” at all.
The two sources to consult concerning the Ta 152 that instantly come to mind are.
1.) “Focke-Wulf Ta 152” by Dietmar Harmann. This book contains useful, reliable and interesting primary source German development and test data.
2.) “Jagdgeschwader 301/302 >> Wilde Sau <<” by Willi Reschke. Reschke was a late WW2 German fighter pilot and “Experte” at a time when the German fighter pilots found themselves fighting at 40 to 20 to 1 odds in the sky. Reschke is to my knowledge the only fighter pilot that flew the Bf 109, Fw 190 and Ta 152 in combat and who has written a book containing information on the performance in combat of the Ta 152 versus various enemy combat aircraft.
Either way the Ta 152 deserves a place in Enlisted, but the Ta 152 should only be added in Enlisted if the Ta 152 performs in Enlisted like in real life. In real life the Ta 152 could out-turn, out-roll and out-run every other enemy aircraft in WW2 according to those pilots that flew it in actual combat, at 40 to 20 to 1 odds against the various premier WW2 enemy fighter aircraft it fought in WW2.
The Ta 152 and all other German aircraft in Enlisted that had GM 1 / MW 50, should have the ability in Enlisted to use GM 1 / MW 50 etc. in combat and be able to refuel it the aerial resupply point in Enlisted. The whole idea behind the introduction of GM 1 / MW 50 in German aircraft was to instantly give them superior engine performance in actual combat. By not giving GM 1 / MW 50 in Enlisted to German aircraft that were equipped with it, the developers are seriously handicapping German aircraft in the game.
Adding any Ta 152 variant in Enlisted without also giving it GM 1 / MW 50 would be both inauthentic and silly. The whole idea behind any German aircraft with GM 1 / MW 50 was to give it instant superior engine performance in combat. And so it should be in Enlisted for any WW2 German aircraft that had GM 1 / MW 50.
Fw Ta 152 C-1 could be really good as a TT Aircraft when it hase a Bomb,
But i think really the Focke- Wulf Ta 152 H should come with a Event Squad to use the Event squad Slot
then it dosnt have Bombs!
This high‑altitude, high‑speed aircraft doesn’t fit the gameplay environment of enlisted; it can be easily downed by planes of the same rank.
If the H Version is a Part off a event squad, with the Event squad slot it would have still some use.
Same like the He 162 (suggestive name: Sparrow; also: People’s Fighter or Salamander)
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The Fw Ta 152 hade a good performance in low air as well simillar to the Tempest most likely even better.
Fw Ta 152 C-1 variant does even have a 500 KG Bomb!
Unfortunately, its maneuverability is quite frustrating, much like the U‑2, and it has an even heavier nose.
In game or reallity?
In real life it was quite nimble even low to the ground.
Maybe in Warthunder the depiction of the FW Ta 152 isnt correct!
Your “impression” or “idea” about the performance of the real world Ta 152 does not conform to what those on the German side involved with the real world Ta 152 have written about it.
I strongly suggest you get some good books and read up on the real world Ta 152.
The real world Ta 152 had superior maneuverability at very high, high, medium and low altitude. It was designed for that purpose.
Read the combat report data submitted by Willi Reschke, since Reschke actually flew the Ta 152 in combat in WW2, and one of the most interesting one to read is the low altitude fight Reschke was in with Ta 152 at basically tree top level against enemy fighter aircraft, such as for example the fight Reschke was in with a number of British “Tempest” fighter aircraft.
Read good books from BOTH sides in a conflict written by those that were there, not just books from one side and certainly not books published after WW2 by government agencies or those paid by government agencies or NGOs to create content for them. That is something one needs to do to get an idea of the true performance of aircraft in combat in WW2.
Read actual declassified German factory and design, development and test documentation produced DURING WW2 by the German authorities, designers, factories and test centers as well as frontline combat reports by the troops. Some of these are available online but by far most of this data is available in good books.
I again refer you to these two books, although I could add many more to the list.
1.) “Focke-Wulf Ta 152” by Dietmar Harmann. This book contains useful, reliable and interesting primary source German development and test data.
2.) “Jagdgeschwader 301/302 >> Wilde Sau <<” by Willi Reschke. Reschke was a late WW2 German fighter pilot and “Experte” at a time when the German fighter pilots found themselves fighting at 40 to 20 to 1 odds in the sky. Reschke is to my knowledge the only fighter pilot that flew the Bf 109, Fw 190 and Ta 152 in combat and who has written a book containing information on the performance in combat of the Ta 152 versus various enemy combat aircraft.
Other good books to read are the books written by Donald Caldwell about Jagdgeschwader 26, arguably the best fighter wing in the Luftwaffe together with Jagdgeschwader 300. Donald Caldwell interviewed over 40 Luftwaffe fighter pilots for his books, including Adolf Galland.
Like I stated earlier the Ta 152 should certainly be a tech tree aircraft to make it available to all players. In addition to one or more tech tree Ta 152s, a Ta 152 variant could be introduced as a premium unit as was done with the Me 262, and another Ta 152 variant as an event unit. This would be nothing out of the ordinary in Enlisted, looking for example at how many P-51, Yak-9, il-2, Fw 190 and Bf 109 aircraft variants we currently already have in Enlisted.
As for the He 162 the Luftwaffe development project code name for the aircraft was “Salamander”, the aircraft itself purportedly had the “Suggestivname” (= evocative name) “Spatz” (=“Sparrow”).
Same as for the Panzer VIII, the Heeres (= Army) development project code name for the Panzer was “Maus”, and according to some sources the Panzer itself purportedly would have had the “Suggestivname” (= evocative name) “Mammut” (=“Mammoth”), although this is disputed by other sources.
He 162 hade after my knowledge the name Volksjäger as well.
Sadly, the performance of the current Fw‑190 variants in Gaijin’s game differs drastically from their real‑life counterparts; they are barely more than minor tweaks from their War Thunder versions.
Widar you said sources written by both sides but everything you’re talking about is German unless you mean war Germany and post war german east and west that is not both sides
I mentioned the author Donald Caldwell as well in my previous post, you might have overlooked it.
Donald Caldwell is a post-1945 USA author that has written several superbly researched books on various Luftwaffe related topics, the one I referred to is his two volume “JG 26 Luftwaffe Fighter Wing War Diary” unit history. Part of Donald Caldwell’s JG 26 research involved interviewing over 40 former Luftwaffe fighter pilots, one of them being Adolf Galland. All of Donald Caldwell’s superbly researched books on the Luftwaffe are worth reading.
When it comes to the Ta 152 there are few authors from the western and eastern allied side that are noteworthy. The most important one is Eric Brown, the well-known British test pilot. Eric Brown actually test flew a Ta 152 after WW2 but without any German Ta 152 spare parts for the aircraft, without any of the special fuel to test its true combat potential and performance, without any of the German aircraft documentation and manuals, without any information on the service status of the various parts of the Ta 152 that he test flew, without a German ground crew trained to maintain the Ta 152 etc. etc. If my memory serves me right Eric Brown considered the Ta 152 to be a close match with the British Tempest, but Eric Brown’s test flight of the Ta 152 has to be seen in the light of the limitations of his test mentioned above, special mention of which is Eric Brown test flying the Ta 152 without the special fuel it required for peek performance in combat.
Many of the WW2 and post-WW2 test reports of foreign equipment carried out by the rear-area officials of the western and eastern allied side are often not objective and reliable, because these officials have a tendency to look down on anything foreign, and this is often reflected in their reports. There is an obvious reason for that: no professional military official is going to make a career by writing a report stating that foreign equipment is superior to domestic equipment, officials more often than not write “what the boss likes to read”, they “go along to get along” as the saying goes (= the practice of self-censorship). Add to that the fact that captured foreign equipment is usually tested without the required foreign spare parts, without the required special foreign fuel and petrol oil lubricants, without any of the foreign equipment documentation and manuals, without any information on the service status of the various parts of the foreign equipment tested, without a foreign maintenance personnel trained to maintain the foreign equipment etc. etc. etc. Of special note is that the foreign equipment tested during WW2 often was captured foreign equipment, that had usually been captured in a damaged state.
Another thing to keep in mind is that the western and eastern allied side military officials often tested domestic military equipment examples that were specially prepared and selected for a test. In other words above average specially prepared unique test examples. These special test examples as a result often had superior performance to the actual production line equipment issued to front-line troops.
The German Luftwaffe in WW2 wanted to avoid that by, at various stages of production, randomly selecting regular production line aircraft and testing several of these, in order to determine what the true performance was of the aircraft that were actually delivered to the front-line troops.
As for the Ta 152 the book by Dietmar Harmann is a must-read because of the many primary source WW2 Luftwafe documents presented in the book, as well as the other information provided by the author. And when it comes to combat reports, the only fighter pilot that flew the Ta 152 in combat who published details of its performance in combat is the German Luftwaffe fighter pilot Willi Reschke, so there is no getting around his book in this regard.
Hopefully this plane turns out like you said once it gets in‑game. The Luftwaffe badly needs a powerful yet agile aircraft
That is why devs not gonna give that plane to axis
Yes because everyone lies but the germans, two how often was this plane flown at specs given Germans deteriorating war time situation, a certain ww2 Italian bomber was the fastest in the world untill the put weapons in it, until they flew it in the desert with the right filters.
Sadly that is very likely to be the case in Enlisted. Or if the Ta 152 is added in Enlisted, then the Ta 152 will be implemented in such a way that it underperforms as badly as the Fw 190 does in Enlisted. But then again, one can always hope for a miracle in Enlisted and the exception to the standard practice, and hope dies last…